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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Mission Accomplished



Blooming Iraq to stage first flower festival

Apr 15 09:02 AM US/Eastern

Iraq was set to hold its first-ever international flower festival on Wednesday with the hope of showing the world that peace is blossoming after the winter of a long war.


447 Comments:

Blogger Phelonius said...

“Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment
Department of Homeland Security

5:44 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Constitution of the United States of America, Amendment X

What the hell? People that believe in the right of the States to the promise in the 10th Amendment are now radical right-wing extremists?

Fie, I say fie on them and their progeny! I challenge them to a duel!

5:47 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

hey, John, come over and see the pictures that have since been added to James' post. I was a little behind on that.

8:59 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

You know, I did not agree with every single thing that Georgie did in office, but I sure have missed him being in office lately.....

2:36 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

I had some disagreements about Bush as well, but...the difference is day and night.

7:01 PM  
Blogger John said...

Bush loved and revered the traditions, soveriegnty, and people of this country, and properly considered it his highest duty as president to protect them.

7:06 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Hey, what are you all complaining about? Obama hit the foreign policy "reset" button. It's like it's 9/10 again only Jimmy Carter is President and he's taking Estrogen supplements...

3:26 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Does he still get to hear "Hail to the Chief" when he walks into a room?

5:28 AM  
Blogger John said...

sp. "sovereignty"

8:12 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

I really miss the old boss...

6:15 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

I hear ya, FJ...but more than anything...I miss Reagan.

6:36 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

Hear, HEAR!

11:48 AM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Man, I do too. I will never forget the feeling of having Carter voted out and Reagan voted in. We felt So proud again, and we were justified. I was able to vote for Reagan the second time, and I was just as proud then and a lot more confident that conservatism was more of what I wanted in government. I was subscribing to "National Review" at the time, and beginning to really hate the main stream press. The internet has been a god-send to me because I have been able to contact like-minded people easily. I ran for office as a Libertarian as a result, and still represent the conservative part of that party.

Still, if Reagan were able to run again, I would vote republican again in utmost confidence.

3:14 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Kawania che Keekeru

8:02 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

HOA-KA Hey

4:53 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

I guess you just had to "be there". ;-)

9:59 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

Goodness gracious, great balls of fire!

11:55 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Heh...good one.

12:24 PM  
Blogger John said...

That quack bilked multi-millions off the scam.

So did Clinton. The Bush years were very, very good to them.

4:39 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

John, just wondering how things are going on your end of the country.

9:13 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Hey, John, you still around?

8:09 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Happy Father's Day!

5:28 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Hey, John...don't tell me you gave up the fight?

9:59 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Happy Labour Day!

7:25 AM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Happy Labor Day!

I have been away from blogging as well for quite some time. There are real and present dangers that have to be addressed at this time, though, and we have been mostly silent.

I encourage you to re-awaken the voice of Republicus if you can.

1:26 PM  
Blogger John said...

Happy (belated) Labor Day all. Hope you had a great summer.

No Kelly, of course I haven't "given up". But someone once said--I think it was general; anyone?--that "when your opponent is in the process of destroying himself, get out of the way.". (or something to that effect)

I've been paying attention. Karma is indeed a bitch. What goes around, comes around.

James: I'm surprised that the Libertarians have not jumped on this unprecedented opportunity to validate their case and advance their cause. Conditions have never been riper for that, opportunities to recruit--or at least be heard-- never better.

The Libertarians are the new Republicans. (The old ones are new Democrats, while the old Democrats are now Marxists).

We live in very interesting times. (A situation that the Chinese curse someone with.)

1:25 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

John, you are still alive!

Yes, it is an interesting time we live in.

On the site that James, John O. and I run we have stayed mostly away from the train wrek stuff.

There is a lot of stuff we just don't even try to cover because its that stuff that everyone is showing. It does get repetitive.

You should come by...or better yet, join us. :-)

12:28 PM  
Blogger John said...

Thanks Kelly, but--though not "surrendering" my political beliefs, particularly the ones about the nature and character of the Left, which, if anything, have been validated (and I really wish I was wrong about the more sinister aspects)--I am still a bit burned out, and prefer at this juncture to observe.

Athough the character of the enigmatic president has come much sharper into focus, I'm still not sure which of the various personas he has used to appeal to diverse--and incompatible--groups will finally come to the fore (by conviction or calculation) and define him.

That he is the most ideologically leftist president we've had in my lifetime (perhaps ever, though FDR and Wilson would be hard to dislodge from the champions' perch--is obvious now, but whether he'll end up another Carter or Clinton is not.

He still has time to triangulate for political damage control and have a shot in '12. And even though he would need many fortituius circumstances to occur and enable that, he has demonstrated a cynical readiness, willingness, and ability (however compromised by the mass disillusionment) to do just that.

Some have said that Obama hard-core ideology is driving to do as much as he can for the sake of progressing that ideology, and a second term be damned. That would require integrity, however, a characteristic that is neutralized by the ideology itself, as is resistance against the pied piper of Power, so I would wager that Obama continues to throw under the bus more and more flotsam and jetsam from his rapidly sinking ship of liberalism, and abandon it all together for the sake of his own political hide (especially if their ia another '94 style resurgence of reactionary conservatism in the '10 midterms).

Still, I'd also wager that he's going to be a one-termer--unless, of course, another chimera like Dole or McCain is nominated by the GOP (not having been known as "The Stupid Party" for nothing).

But if someone like Mitt gets the green light and comes out tanned, rested, and ready, our long, national nightmare will be over.

8:50 AM  
Blogger John said...

PS. Remember Sanjai, "The Liberal Samurai," who used to participate openly and civilly and even in a friendly manner, and, most importantly, engaged in reasonable debate? (however weakly, liberalism always being at a disadvantage in those kinds of contests that are determined by rationality)?

We defended him when Jeff Bargholz attacked him as a typically devious liberal who is actually nursing malice behind a disarming smile.

Actually, the anti-Muslim Bargholz was accusing him of being a typically devious Muslim who is nursing malice behind a disarming smile, but his prejudice against Muslims spoke to my experiences with leftists in generall, though I categorically reject any sweeping judgment of malice on the part of all avowed liberals, and save my own contempt for the vile ideology itself, since I can count many such self-proclaimed liberals as friends, fairly certain that they are unaware of being the intellectual heirs of liars and murderers.

So the bleeding-heart--and presumably naive--Liberal Samurai was welcome here.

However, you will recall that rather recent period when I entertained an aggressive infestation of leftist, anonymous trolls--if only to study them more closely. All of them were malicious. And one of them made an error in posting and accidentally revealed their real identity.

It was the Liberal Samurai (and a pretty clumsy "samurai"
at that).

I didn't think through the implications--that he was one of the termites here busily chewing away at the house of Republicus--and greeted him like an old friend. Awkwardly (no doubt, on hindsight), he returned the greeting civilly and then mumbled something irrelevant to fact that he was unmasked troll...and then disappeared forever.

Very sad, but edifying. If not validating.

9:24 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

First, as for being burned out...that is the beauty of sharing a blog. Right now James has had LOT on his plate and hasn't had a lot of time to tend to the blog, but has plans in the back of his head for one when he gets the time. There are times when I have not had time to write as often and the other two contributors have taken up the slack. There are times here and there when all is quiet...but that does not last long.

Sometimes, all I add to the blog is another video link that is brought to my attention and added to the side list.

As for wishing for a "Mitt" type person...OH, it will take quite a bit to clean up the mess that is being done right now to our country.

I am finding people who were otherwise quiet who have come out to speak UP and voice their discontent.

John, though you may be burned out at this time, think about it, K? Your understanding of politics and the nuances of it all are the reason I keep coming back to this fine blog. I stumbled over here right after I set up my first blog. I was impressed by the depth of debate.

and yes, I remember Sanjai. I liked him. I didn't realize that he was one of the trolls. I had seen his name mentioned recently in your comments, but didn't pick up the reason behind it. I am saddened to hear that he debased himself to such a level as a troll.

You know how I am about the dishonesty of the trolls and their cowardace. I remember debating with Dora. Dora had a name. Dora had her own blog. Though I disagreed with her and went to bat with her many many times, she was not a coward. She was willing to put her name behind what she said.

Sanjai had been that way. Now I am sad.

And finally, John, as Miley Cyrus sings,

"There’s always going to be another mountain
I’m always going to want to make it move
Always going to be an uphill battle,
Sometimes you going to have to lose,
Ain’t about how fast I get there,
Ain’t about what’s waiting on the other side
It’s the climb

The struggles I’m facing,
The chances I’m taking
Sometimes they knock me down but
No I’m not breaking
The pain I’m knowing
But these are the moments that
I’m going to remember most yeah
Just got to keep going
And I,
I got to be strong
Just keep pushing on,

It’s all about
The climb
Keep the faith
Keep your faith"

10:10 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

PS: while you are sitting back observing...keep in touch. We do miss ya.

10:33 PM  
Blogger John said...

Thank you very much, Kelly. Great lyrics by Cyrus. Right back atcha.

8:47 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

This is a very provocative read:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090921/blumenthal/single

11:11 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

10 Lessons for Tea Baggers:

President Obama Cut Your Taxes

The Stimulus is Working

First Ronald Reagan Tripled the National Debt...

...Then George W. Bush Doubled It Again

Republican States Have the Worst Health Care

Medicare is a Government Program
Barack Obama is Not a Muslim

Barack Obama was Born in the United States

70,000 Does Not Equal 2,000,000

The Economy Almost Always Does Better Under Democrats

11:46 AM  
Blogger Barry's Changes said...

Bite me, Jim Clyburn.

5:36 PM  
Blogger John said...

You're full of shit, Stanley. I'll be back to beat it out of you, too.

10:32 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Why Oklahoma is the most Republican State in the Union:

75 Percent of Oklahoma High School Students Can't Name the First President of the U.S.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Dear John,

Are you an Oklahoma grade school grajooate? ...or a flunkout emeritus?

11:51 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

That's a great statement by Obama, Barry/Jim?, but it won't have any effect on the collective stroke the right is suffering from. I'm afraid that has terminal implications.

11:55 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Stanley...you believe every thing that comes out of Obama's mouth don't ya?

12:02 PM  
Blogger John said...

Dear Stanley:

You are the intellectual heir of liars, murderers, neurotic misanthropes, and control freaks.

Don't worry. I'll be back to put you in the public stock here and give you the horsewhipping a fool like you deserves.

Btw, I wouldn't refer to a (dubiously) cited Oklahoman statististic to sweepingly indicate the intelligence of the average Republican registrant. Those good ole boys and
gals may not give a damn about learning such essential information as the Gramscian strategy of transforming a culture's ideological apparatuses from within (like Obama'a pal Ayers has) at an Ivy League indoctrination center.

Why should they? They got farms and livestock to run (something I's like to see a brilliant know-it-all like you try to manage).

Try to think about that next time you eat your food that you
obviously think appears on supermarket shelves by the same kind of magic that makes you believe that there
really is such a thing as a free lunch).

Instead, I'd look at the literacy rate of the average Democratic voter.

You know, the ones who think that the plot of 9/11 was hatched in Cheney's undisclosed location.

Furthermore, I think that your suggestion that most Republican-voting Oklahomans don't know that Washington is our first president is not only a lie, but a
projection, given that most profoundly shallow lefties think that American history began in 1960, and that the Father of
our Country is John F. Kennedy.

I think your confusing the trailer trash and welfare dependent Jerry Springer crowd with rustic Red Staters who believe in God, Mother, Country, and hard work (and whose kids overwhelmingly man the military battlements while you make fun of them because they never heard of Altheuser (you know, the lefty elitist who went O.J. Simpson on his own wife) and Saul Alinsky).

Yeah, those redneck Oklahomans don't even know that the USA is comprised of 57 states. And that Muslims were
responsible for the Renaissance. And that slavery ended in America non-violently. And that the Americans liberated
Auschwitz.

And that history lesson comes from the uber-elitist "Best & Brightest" you intellectual frauds can come up with.

And what the hell do you know about Washington, anyway, Stanley, except for the fact that he owned slaves?

Do you think Washington & Co. would want to X out the
word "Christmas" from the public square while funding Ben Franklin's post office to release a stamp commemorating a
Muslim holiday during the actual Christmas season?

Not if Jefferson had anything to say about it, who sent the fledgling American Marines on their first Shock & Awe mission to the shores of Tripoli against a prototype Qadaffi.

Do you think Washington & Co. would agree to the nationalization of banks, healthcare, and K-College
education, Stanley?

Those dead white boys didn't even include a federal income tax in the original Constitution.

Did you know that about George Washington, fool?

The farmers and cowmen of Oklahoma may not know that, but who cares? They live it.

Don't leave yet, Stanley. I'm just warming up.

Welcome to Republicus.

Meanwhile, enjoy your "revolution" while it lasts. (Like, for one term.)

1:49 PM  
Blogger John said...

Btw, Stanley, do you even think that Washington was even qualified--by your "elite" standards--to be POTUS? He had a high school education (at best), could barely write, was a war criminal ( a French courier was killed under his watch, and he ordered the genocide of the Iroquois along Cayuga Lake), owned guns and slaves, and hated paying taxes.

But then again, as for hating paying taxes goes, so does Rangel, Daschle, and even the Democratic Secretary of the Treasury.

The only difference being that Washington didn't make everyone else pay them.

So aren't you secretly glad that the Oklahomans (supposedly) don't know about Washington?

2:02 PM  
Blogger John said...

P.S. "Terminal stroke the right is suffering" is, of course, a projection that is spewed while Obama approvals have plummeted even faster than Bush's did. Yes, Karma's a bitch. Stanley. And it's always good to put a Leftist--usually accustomed to hiding behind a curtain spewing their malice anonymously--front and center, so everyone can see them for who they are, and chase them back into their hole where they can to back to doing what they do best: whining, lying, character assassinating, rabble-rousing, and whining and lying some more until enough time passes for the good natured but gullible and notoriously short-memories American People forget and let them crawl back out among them with the right gimmick and a devious appeal to the very consevative sentiments that the Leftist hates and tries to destroy once gaining trust and power.

And the cycle continues.

2:16 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Flat Stanley at his best. Note the date on the bottom of the picture.

5:55 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Wow, I feel like a laxative.

8:10 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Oh, just got in from the orgy at the beach...bathhouses cookin'...fondue drippin'...welfare chex cashed at the local pawn ...and checked my email and four or five sites I posted to...man, the right is in DEEEEE Nile, heading for ASS Swan and the big dip. Yeah, them Okie GOPs are troooo heros of the GOP...mud stupid and jes so like reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal...kinda like those ballsy firemen of 911 who it turned out hated Guliani and the whole lying GOP establishment...oh, btw...Fox has Obama 20 points ahead of Rasmussen...but hope runs (selectively) eternal (and infernal) in the pointy wingbat pinhead.

8:16 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Incoherence has a new spokesman... lol!

5:59 AM  
Blogger John said...

Methilnks, fj, that it's the pomo poet coming back for more abuse. (because the fellow traveling lefties he hangs with are phonies and lie to him).

8:26 AM  
Blogger John said...

The Oklahomans are being attacked because of vindictiveness.

They--some research facility in Oklahoma-- just came out with a study which shows that, nationwide, the public schools are failing the students (I think the illiteracy rate was very high. but not certain what standard they used).

The implications--if not obvious conclusions--were that, not only is the liberal control of academia churning out idiots who don't know the 3 Rs (although they do manage to learn how Colombus commited genocide how to use a condom), but government control of thlngs in general makes a mess of them and ends up destroying lives.

Sure, the military is run by the government, and yes, we have the best military in the world. But what's their purpose?

To make a mess of infrastructure and destroy lives.

Yeah, the government is real good at that.

9:09 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The Rapidly Degenerating Right:

GOP Big Wig Roy Blunt Delivers "Family Values" Racism Up Big Time: "I could go into great and long detail about how many things they did to try and eliminate the 'monkey problem.' But they never got it done, so finally this golf course and this golf course only, they passed a rule and the rule was - you have to play the ball where the monkey throws it. [audience laughter swells] And that is the rule in Washington all the time." Ugly and It's Getting Uglier.

10:19 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Duuuh...gummint baaaaaaaad. Migod, don't you people have a clue how threadbare and passe' you sound?

Everyone -- but you poor creatures -- knows what a calamity private business has made of health care in America...and what a disaster it has made of the US economy because naive conservative fools have taken the leash off. And all you've got to fight it with are the truly insane lies and violence we see you unloosing on the land every day... plumbing new depths of irresponsible social abandon each time. The last desperate blast of noise from a dying beast.

10:28 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

So much clooolissniss..so little time..."est military in the world"..spending 15 times as much as our nearest rival and as much as the entire remainder of the world combined, we can't even handle little backwater bandidos like the Taliban or the Iraqi resistance...it's not a gov. program...it has nothing to do with defense...it is merely a corporate directed welfare program for the traitors in the "defense" industry.

10:44 AM  
Blogger John said...

Yup. "Stanley"--if that's his/her REAL name-- is the Super Pomo-Poet we used to make fun of.

Notice the initial, knee-jerk reaction after being pressed into a corner by reasonable rebuttals, padlocked into the stocks, and lashed repeatedly by the strokes of logic, and Truth:

"Oh yeah? Well, YOU'RE A RACIST!

And right, the U.S. Military is not a government entity at the service of the Commander-in-Chief (a.k.a. The chief executor of the executive branch of the federal government and funded solely by the tax-payer).

It's a renegade group of highly-trained and well-financed mercenaries doing the bidding of Halliburton, you see.

Super Pomo Poet here is obviously confusing the military arm of government with the hired, corporate guns of outfits like Blackwater.

Which is why the solution is Obama's paramilitary--but "just as big and just as well-financed"am-- civilian Army (of thuggish, brownshirted, and astroturfed mobs that guard voting booths from profiled Republican voters (i.e. Whitey) with baseball bats.

11:17 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Racist!!? duh...where was that mentioned...I've been perusing your archives...no wonder all those guys spent so much time laughing at you. Isn't it amazing how everytime you expose some poor, dumb Republican, it salves its wounds by telling everyone how bad it beat you up on the playground and how its black eye and bloody nose happened when it was celebrating its imaginary victory? Hilarious also how a wingbat twists itself into a pretzel when it has to defend a gov program like the military...you're very entertaining, whacko.

11:27 AM  
Blogger John said...

Stanley's "10 Lessons For Teabaggers" will be rebutted here, piecemeal.

First, the reader will note the style of these "Lessons.". They are statements delivered with the first letter of each word high-cased, as if they are Absolute and Irrevocable Ten Commandments, not subject to refutation.

But that they are cheap, shallow, and fork-tongued propaganda that are easily exposed as such only proves that this is a list of talking points scribbled up by the Kool
Aid gurus (who have the juvenile minds of adolescents, if they aren't actually teenagers) that grunts like Stanley here
run to for their daily rations to cut, run, and paste on the commentary walls of targeted, right-wing blogs.

That the gurus don't care that they only end up making their couriers look stupid by sponsoring their Kool Aid is self-evident. All they care about is mass saturation of their ridiculous "Lessons" for the primary sake of disruption, and the for the sake of the odds that a certain percentage of readers will drink the Kool Aid and become mindlessly trollified, and so enlarging the ranks of the Orcish army.

That their are thoroughly orcified trolls like Stanley here, and many others serving their Sauronic Dark Lords only encourages the belief that their are others out their who are susceptible to the Kool Aid.

Now for the "10 Lessons" (two at a time):

1) President Obama Cut Your Taxes

President Obama raised taxes on the most productive tax payers in the country (and who always paid the disproportionate bulk--of taxes to begin with). He "cut" taxes for those who never paid taxes to begin with (by sending them a check).

That's not called "cutting taxes." It's called stealth reparations.

Look at yourself in the mirror, Stanley, and say "Obama's a tax-cutter" to see how stupid you sound.

If Obama gets everything his way (and that will be the day), the average American citizen will be paying upwards of 60% in federal, state, and local taxes, on top of the inflation that Obama is playing chicken with and would--if Obama has it all his way--not only gouge everyone'a wallet and purse, but steamroll what would be left of Obama's critically dwindling chances for a second term.

"Obama The Tax-Cutter". That's a shamelessly ridiculous lie that's drunk, wearing a lampshade on its head, and dancing on a coffee-table.

2) The Stimulus Is Working

In other words: "Hey everybody! Look at the DOW!"

And that from the same crowd who sneered: "Just ignore the DOW, everybody!" when the stock market climbed faster than Romeo on Viagra climbing a vine to Juliet's balcony, climbing past Clinton's much-ballyhooed peak, broke other records, and set the one still standing. You joykills insisted that the correct barometers for economic well-being were the deficit and unemployment rates, both of which are significantly much, much worse now than they ever were under Bush (even when he inherited his own recession from Clinton).

Of course, you guys stfu about unemployment after it stabilized at a very healthy 5% and stayed there for years, because if you can't say something negative about the right-wing, better not to say anything at all (if not lie about the positive and make it negative).

Right, Stanley?

Don't leave yet. There's eight more to go.

12:41 PM  
Blogger John said...

Where was racism mentioned?

I wouldn't say that you "mentioned" it. It was more the running theme of your entire first post following my punishing ones. And like I said, I'm just warming up, so stick around.

12:53 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Duh ya mean a tiny fraction...now still paying some of the lowest rates in history ...had a minor raise while others were cut? More simple lies from a simple mind. As for the stimulus working, I agree to a certain extent...you monkeys left such a monstrous mess I don't think it will ever be repaired short of a total revolution in US politics...especially, since spineless centrists like ObamaRahma are running the once Democratic party.

12:53 PM  
Blogger John said...

Try to understand something, knucklehead: It's there money. They made it the old fashioned way: They earned it (the likes of Madoff notwithstanding).

So you think the most radically-leftist president in American history is "centrist"?

Who are you? Satan?

But you're right about Obama being a pussy. If he had the balls to stand by leftist convictions, he'd be Jimmy Carter (imagine that; Carter having more spine than Obama). But because he's an opportunistic phony that--like most leftists once empowered (as perfectly characterized by Orwell's pig Napoleon), they like the creature comforts at the top, the power, the money--the very things they campaign against in their "I'm the son of a millworker" and "The People Vs. The Powerful" schticks-- and become ready, willing, and able to throw the leftwing rabble that got them there under the bus, yuck it up with the evil Bushes on the golf course, and bomb third world "brown people" to keep their polls up and maneuver for a second term, I'd only for the sake of vanity and to earn multi-millions of dollars on book deals and the lecture circuit after that (all on behalf of the under-privileged, of course).

And that's the "Hope & Change" you invested your credibility on, fool: A One-Term Carter (if Obama decides that your repulsive ideology is worth fighting for), or Bill Blowjob Clinton (who is now hailed--and missed--as a "moderate"--by comparison to what we have now, presumably).

Shhhhhhh! Listen...Can you hear it? It sounds like:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

1:52 PM  
Blogger John said...

sp. "It's (their) money."

1:54 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Wow...you can almost see this poor, dishevelled moron raving on a street corner. Which is it, moron...did we get our leftist dream or is he a sold out centrist? You're so fucking stupid and lacking in integrity you don't know and try to have it both ways in one raving screed. The degenerate howlings of the last dregs of a vile movement. Good riddance.

2:02 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Republican Autoerotic Asphyxiation


One glance at the birthers and the town hall screamers tells you all you need to know. You don’t even need to see it, you can hear it in their strangled cries. The Republican party is a junkie, addicted to hate.

“The base is on fire!” the Republican spokeszombies shout, spittle flaking their bloodless lips. ‘We’re back!” they spew, “bigger and better than ever!”

Hate is a rush, hate is a drug. When all your plans and dreams have gone to hell, when everything you stand for has been repudiated, when the people have abandoned you and it feels like God himself has forsaken you, hate will give you a reason to live.

The problem with hate is that, like any drug, you develop a tolerance to it. Last year a Republican mob could get into ecstasies of joy by chanting the lie “Obama is a Muslim!” That worked for a while, but then they had to up the dose. “Obama is a socialist!” was good for a nice hate buzz, but it got old in a hurry. Now mere lies don’t cut it anymore. Now it takes blood libel to feed the monkey.

“Obama is an illegal alien! Obama hates white people! Obama wants to slit granny’s throat! We hate him, Hate him, HATE HIM!”

This isn’t party politics, this is delirium tremens, and what comes next is rigor mortis.

Liberals, moderates and even rational conservatives--those few who haven’t gone on the junk--hear this stuff and are terrified.

I can’t blame them. It is scary. When you can’t have a town hall meeting without a shrieking, 140 decibel, bussed-in, paid-for mob doing everything in its malevolent power to scare the bejesus out of everyone and make democratic debate impossible, it’s easy to cut and run. The fight-or-flight reflex kicks in and even the strong are tested.

Many fail. The Blue Dogs hear the furor and turn Yellow. “Let’s take August off and hope it all goes away. These issues are just too contentious.”

But “the issues” have nothing to do with it. Do we really think those mobs give a crap about the intricacies of health care reform? Has fear made us that stupid?

The birthers, the “just say no” crowd, the “Cash for Clunkers is a failure because it worked” idiots don’t really care about any of those things. All they want to do is hurt Obama because they hate Obama.

2:05 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

End of the GOP, Part II

They hate Obama because he beat them. That inescapable fact is what’s driving the right insane.

All they care about is driving down Obama’s poll numbers. But why? Seriously, my Republican brethren, are you really so delusional that you think you can beat him in 2012? Obama is going to eat Mitt Romney and crap Bobby Jindal in three years. What’s the point? Don’t you have a country to help run, or would you rather run it into the ground?

The right thought it was America. It turns out America is bigger than that. Forty years ago the left labored under the same delusion.

Crazy-ass, bug-eyed, screaming imbeciles, drunk with hate and high on anger are always with us, on both fringes. The terrible failure of conservative leadership today is their refusal to repudiate those foaming fanatics in the harshest, clearest words possible.

Conservatism is a serious intellectual project. It has a long, proud history of standing foursquare against the rule of the mob. There is only one moral response a true conservative can have, when confronted with ignorance, hatred and lies, lies, lies about the duly elected President of the United States of America: “We renounce you, root and branch.”

But they don’t because it feels too good. The hatred is “energizing the base,” it’s “firing up the party,” it’s “bringing us back.”

No, it’s not. It’s killing you. And it will keep killing you until you decide you don’t want Obama to fail more than you want America to succeed.

For just a few moments of bitter joy, the Republican party is murdering itself. Those screaming crowds, the frightened Democrats, the rising ratings of right-wing radio ranters, Obama’s slipping poll numbers! It’s such a rush! We can’t stop, it feels too good!

But it’s not good, my conservative friends, it’s death. What you are feeling is the fatal bliss of autoerotic asphyxiation.

2:06 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

You know that the Democrat's Obamascare Plan is in desperate trouble when they drive the Nutroots out of their Kosian/Puffington Monkey Houses and rechain 'em to keyboards in the vain hope that 1 million monkeys randomly insulting decent citizens can get 'em a better health handout that their overseers have managed to deliver thus far...

2:31 PM  
Blogger John said...

Can you read, Bozo (or Bozette)? Or did you go to a public school in a blue state?

I wasn't "talking out of both sides of (my) mouth," shitling. Nowhere did I say Obama will turn out to be both Carter and Clinton. I said Either/Or. There was no contradiction. You're only putting your reading incompehension on full display on the World Wide Web.

I'll explain to you what I umabiguously wrote before, only this time I'll write much more slowly. Try to follow:

Yes, you got your Leftist dream, but the question is, will the dream materialize into a term-Carter (as it would if he had any balls), or will it evaporate as he adapts politically to (conservative) reality, gets seduced by the trappings of power (which only conservative ideology protects one against) and goes turncoat Clinton, you (and his, too, originally) and your stinking ideology be damned?

I don't know yet. He's the one talking out of both sides of his mouth. I would say--at this juncture--that he's going to try to have it both ways, that he thinks a Carter would have succeeded into a second term and enact real "progressive" change if he had the shmooze of Clinton, which Obama thinks has (perhaps moreso).

Unfortunately, his shmooze is already wearing thin. The magic is gone. He just doesn't realize it yet, so he has no more lipstick to put on the noisome pig of the Leftist Dreams (of his Muslim father) that most certainly came in with.

My bet--not prediction--is that he will continue to throw his leftist baggage overboard like flotsam and jetsam of the
sinking ship of liberalism and then sprint right as fast as can a la Clinton to give him four more years as King. You can expect an increasingly desperate--and reckless--search for bin Laden as the countdown to a second term starts ticking and he decides that he really would rather be Clinton than Carter, and hopes that bringing back bin Ladens head on a pike will be the raw meat that the rabid conservatives want to give him a second chance.

But I think it's already too late for that. The independents and moderates who got him in there (over an anemic conservative like McCain) didn't do their homework and never intended to give a leftist like you the keys to the castle. "Fool me once," they're saying, "Shame on you. Fool me twice, however..."

Back to your hole, Stanley.

2:47 PM  
Blogger John said...

Glad you discerned that, fj (but not surprised).

Note also that Stankey's entire "Part II" post above is a perfect projection of the leftist Bush-Hater's emotional impetus and psychodynamics since 2000.

Consider it an unconscious confession of what drove eight years of a collective meltdown.

2:55 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

No one is here to convince you morons of anything...you're ineducable, which is why your retrograde movement is in the toilet. Most times I do a little yoga to take a break but occasionally I get more fun out of kicking wingbat ass for casual sport at odd moments of the day. I get the same weird reaction from reading your looney screeds that I did as a kid when reading a book I had about freaks...always strangely and eerily fascinating but overall a tawdry, little thrill which one doesn't want to waste too much time on.

3:09 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

To wit: the more this grotesque weirdo twists to rationalize his contradictions, the funnier he sounds. Apparently he was traumatized by the endless beating he took here from some very funny and caustic libs. First he shut his ears and screamed, then he went fetal for months. Damn, I'm sorry I missed that. How can I contact those guys?

3:13 PM  
Blogger John said...

You're a lying sack of shit, "Stanley.". You're not a newbie. I know who you are.

Well, honestly, not sure exactly which one, but you were one of the gang of gremlins who used to hang out here because your masochists and you just love the sting of my whip on your quivering buttocks (if you're Lana Banana, Blossom, or what's-her-name) or the slap of the glove against your bloated face (if you're Karl/Sirk, Simian, or what's-his-name).

Welcome back, "Stankey."

4:14 PM  
Blogger John said...

(sp. You're masochists)

4:29 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Paranoia runs deep through the wingbat heart. Marvelous compliment to be compared to those wingbat torturers, though, from what I've read, but I'm afraid I don't have the interest to bother except occasionally.

5:27 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Oh, btw, like a typical wingbat, he's obsessed with sado-masochistic perversions...as the brilliant Blumenthal book, Republican Gomorrah, points out so convincingly...with about a zillion recent examples we've all read about in the news.

5:30 PM  
Blogger John said...

Not that lefties have an ounce of credibility left after destroying any objective integrity they may--may, mind you-- ever had for the sake of political gain after being properly marginalized as the sniveling and sneering malicious fringe that they truly are, I'll take your word for it, Stanley, and I beg you're pardon. It's just that lefty blog trolls aren't exactly renowned for having distinct personalities and thinking independently. You all sound and behave so similarly, in fact, that sometimes I wonder if you're all one and the same person running around with two dozen aliases.

But please don't leave. I'm not done sadistically molesting you yet, and it really turns me on to do so.

6:25 PM  
Blogger John said...

Note: I've been iphoning all these posts and, for several reasons (including sloppiness, but not only that) there are typos galore (the rare misspelling, but also missing conjunctions, renegade pronouns, etc.), and I'm afraid that my clarity may be compromised by them. Nevertheless, I hope the reader can fill in the blanks and be able to properly rearrange the occassional blip of chaotic syntax instead of dismissing the material as the work of an illiterate or slacker. If you could see the size of the box I'm writing in, and the size of the keys I'm thumbing, as well as the program's often-unnoticed self-editing (which often guesses a wrong guess, and provides a word I did not intend and failed to reject, and so unwittingly confirmed), and know how cumbersome it is to navigate and scroll, perhaps you could forgive the unusual amount of errors.

That being said, I will try to be more careful.

The debunking of Stanley's "Ten Lessons For Teabaggers" continues:

3) First Ronald Reagan Tripled The National Debt..
...Then George W. Bush Doubled It Again.

...Then Barack Obama Quadrupled What W. Bush Doubled What Reagan Tripled.

Obama Wins!

4) Republican States Have The Worst Healthcare

"Worst" in what way, Stanley? Greatest amount of uninsured citizens? Worst conditions of health care facilities in terms of hygiene and the number of unqualified or incompetent healthcare providers therein, leading to the greatest amounts of malpractice lawsuits/judgments/settlements?

If yes, yes, and yes, then First Prize goes to the deep-blue locales of inner city LA, NYC, DC, New Orleans, and Obama's own Chicago.

If you don't believe me, next time you get sick, go to one of those government-run "free" clinics in downtown--and very blue-- Baltimore, and when I get sick, I'll go to the private practice of a country doctor in deep red San Antonio,
Texas, and we'll see who can dance the Tango the quickest afterward.

9:39 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Utah...one of the reddest states in the country has one of the best health care systems in the country. It also has LOTS of competition between insurance companies and also hospitals. Capitalism at its best mixed with some of the finest health care around.

Now, having said that, there are some hospitals around here that could use some adjustments...There are a couple I would not want to ever end up needing to be there.

10:12 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Competition precludes the possibility of having a "public option". The moment a "public option" appears, the "competition" is essentially over... (for the government "subsidy" and cost-shifting of the "public option" grows ever larger)

8:39 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

$500 billion of cuts in Medicare spending is NOT $500 billion in "cost savings"... it's simply $500 billion in public costs shifted to private health insurers from the public sector.

8:41 AM  
Blogger John said...

They don't understand how money is created. That's why they treat it like Monopoly money.

9:06 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Just as the backward red states have the worst health care, worst education and the most ignorant people, most mule humpers and child molestors, the most abortions.

they also have the most

Teen Births
says researcher Joseph Strayhorn of Drexel University College of Medicine and University of Pittsburgh.

The states with the strongest conservative religious beliefs also tend to have the highest rates of teen pregnancies and births. This according to a new paper forthcoming in Reproductive Health.


The top 10 states for conservative religious beliefs:

Mississippi
Alabama
South Carolina
Tennessee
Louisiana
Utah
Arkansas
North Carolina
Kentucky
Oklahoma
The top 10 states for teen births:

Mississippi
New Mexico
Texas
Arkansas
Arizona
Oklahoma
Nevada
Tennessee
Kentucky
Georgia

All this while sucking up far more of the country's tax money -- provided by blue states -- and paying less than their share.

Wouldn't it be fabulous to see these brain damaged peckerwoods really cecede from the union...they would soon be left so far in the chigger infested dust that they'd be begging to be allowed back in. And most certainly denied entry. Who can afford them?

9:38 AM  
Blogger John said...

Brilliant, Stanley. You take the bureaucrats, trial lawyers, entertainers, potheads, Naturists, Wiccans, atheists, and pacificists, and the rest of the nation's class of parasites, and I'll take the entrepreneurs, industrialists, farmers, cattle ranchers, oilmen, the military, real artists, and the rest of the productive class.

And, of course, God and guns.

And then we'll consider your secession as treason to the Constituon and an act of war and go Sherman on you.

Actually, I really would like to see a metrosexual try to play toughguy with Joe Six-pack away from the anonymity of the blogosphere and face-to-face.

I know you jackals and hyenas think you have the upper hand when ganging up like a mob against indivusualist conservatives, but you really don't want to give them a reason to leave their farms or ivory towers and join forces against the Orc armies of Sauron.

You might want to take a closer look at the polls you live--and die--by.

You're gravely outnumbered.

11:48 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Yeah, we're outnumbered!! If this poor moron had to face a fact he'd piss his panties. And, it's you morons who keep talking about seceding...I think we should do everything we can to encourage it...your "productive" weirdos would soon get an education...in starvation. And, without your red state leeches dragging on the blue staters who support them, we'd leave you poor parasite infected parasites in the mud with the pigs.

7:20 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

"I'm not going to tell some gay kid in the audience he can't get married."

GW disappointing the morons...i.e. his base.

When even Commander Bunnypants leaves you behind, you're in trouble.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

US leading economic index up for fifth month in a row
Published: Monday September 21, 2009

The index of US leading economic indicators rose 0.6 percent in August, marking a fifth consecutive increase and offering more signs of economic recovery, the Conference Board said Monday.

The business research firm said its forward-looking index of economic conditions in the coming months extended its gains after a revised 0.9 percent increase in July and a 0.8 percent jump in June.

"Since reaching a peak in July 2007, the (leading index) fell for 20 months -- the longest downtrend since the mid 1970s -- but it has been rising since April and its gains have become very widespread," says Ataman Ozyildirim, economist at The Conference Board.

"The six-month growth rate of the (index) continues to accelerate."

Other indexes in the research firm's survey appeared to steady. The coincident index of current activity was unchanged in August, after a 0.1 percent rise in July.

The lagging index fell 0.1 percent in August after a 0.5 percent drop in July.

"Taken together, this suggests that the recession is bottoming out," said Conference Board economist Ken Goldstein. "These numbers are consistent with the view that after a very severe downturn, a recovery is very near."

9:18 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The last of the sane leaving the GOP...

) The chairman of the Rhode Island Republican Hispanic Assembly and member of the Republican Central Committee says he has quit the GOP because he was embarrassed by South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst during President Obama's address to Congress on Sept. 9.

Wilson shouted "You lie," when President Obama said illegal immigrants would not receive benefits under his health care plan.

Ivan Marte tells The Providence Journal that Wilson's behavior was "shameful" and "uncivilized

9:21 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Funny, that sounds just like what Obama just told NY's governor..

...or was it, "Get out, darkie!"

5:23 AM  
Blogger John said...

Rebuttals of Stanley's "Ten Lessons For Teabaggers" Continued.

5) Medicare Is A Government Program.

That "Lesson"--as is the nature of the entire piece-- is nothing but a cheap, heckling and juvenile "hahaha" at one of the signs at the many town hall meetings that said (to the government) something like "Don't Touch My Medicare!"

The point of that position--which shouldn't have to be
explained if you're not a child or an idiot--is that the person
was happy with and preferred the status quo rather than a
complete overhaul of the existing system. But rather than
argue for change--even an overhauling one---and convince that woman and anyone listening that their
Medicare would remain exactly as it is, or improve (and
how), these malicious character assassins typically decide instead to resort to ad hominems and attack the woman as being "stupid" (because she presumably didn't know that
Medicare was a government program) and, by extension, use her--one private citizen carrying one sign at one town
hall meeting out of dozens--as representative of the entire group of American citizens resisting--and successfully, too,
if the rapid retreat to acceptable "tweaking" is any indication-- the original attempt to nationalize Health Care.

i.e.: "They're all stupid! Ha ha ha!"

And even if--for the sake of argument-- that one individual
(out of many millions protesting socialized medicine) really didn't know that Medicare was a government program, to say that such elementary ignorance is representative of the savvy (or lack thereof) motivating the entire,
reactionary grass-roots movement against over-weening--
and arguably un-Constitutional--government activism and intrusion into the private sector is like saying that all the hopenchangers and yes-I-canners are as feeble-minded as the woman who wept--in joy--that the new president will
pay her mortgage and gas bills. (Although, ironically, perhaps, the reparative "tax-cuts"--i.e. a government check
for those who never paid taxes to begin with, a.k.a. Welfare--could be said to contribute to those very expenses, albeit you can expect the sales of beer and
lottery tickets to correspondingly increase after the checks go out).

Anyway, that the adolescently-minded or just snide propagandist saw fit to include that cheap gibe in their
"Lessons" only proves, yet again, ad nauseam, that these
lefty urchins can not to be taken seriously.

That the jackal couldn't resist--like a person with Tourette's
Syndrome--blurting out the puerile (and self-incriminating, since only the originators understood its meaning) epithet "teabaggers" should tell you exactly what kind of political lowlife the author of the "Lessons" is, and, furthermore, the
silly kind of mind that the courier--i.e. Stanley--has chirping in his (or her, still not quite convinced that
"Stanley" is both a male and a newbie) skull.

It is a feeble one.

6) Barack Obama Is Not A Muslim.

Is Barack Hussein Obama a Christian? Isn't the Liberation Theology practiced by the Trinity Church that he regularly attended for 20 years simply a Marxist-Afrocentric/Muslim
hybrid that is more a mainstreamed--i.e. Christianized--version of the Nation of Islam than it is an offshoot of mainline Christianity?

And isn't that why, in fact, you have no problem with that
kind of "Christianity," knowing that it's nothing but a lipstick
on a pig of leftist, political ideology masquerading as a
politically-transcendant--and tax-exempt--religious
institution?

10:24 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

How are you frightened, little "conservatives" today...I guess that's the polite word for the odd collection of fearful, ignorant, plain stupid, bigoted,cowardly, religiously insane and defective dregs who can't join in a decent, progressive society.

Well, wuzzup?.. geewiz...O'Reilly comes out for the public option, Scarborough denounces Right wing hate, Beck says he prefers Obama to McCain, GW was stunned by the avalanche of GOPerversion, the sane are quitting the party...well, most already have.

And, how about that hilarious Orly Taitz debacle...the face of the GOP...who is she...D'Onofrio in drag? Even her own client is suing her now and the judge is threatening a spanking -- which "she" is looking forward to. You just can't suppress a laugh at this freak show...hahahapleezstopme hahah...

11:51 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Here's your feel good story for the day:

In late July, Senator George Voinovich (R-Oh) publicly complained that the GOP is "being taken over by southerners." Minnesota's Republican governor Tim Pawlenty voiced similar fears a year ago. Maine's two senators, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins have also gone on record as worrying about the GOP's increasingly narrow base.

The future does not hold much hope for the GOP when the response of various demographics are taken into account.

Obama took 68% of voters aged 18-29. He took 68% of Hispanic voters. The young are the future of our country, and Latinos the most rapidly growing ethnic segment of America, and in neither case is favorable opinion of the Republican party currently above 5%.

As the GOP has thrown increasingly bizarre, frenzied, and sometimes racially motivated accusations at Obama, the positive view of the GOP has seen a steady and drastic reduction. In January, 40% of whites held a positive view of the GOP. Today, that figure is 25%. In January, 20% of Latinos held a positive view of the GOP. Today, that figure is 3%. Amongst voters under thirty years of age, that positive view of the GOP has plummeted from 27% to 4%. The two demographics which have seen somewhat steady positive views of the GOP are amongst voters aged 30 to 44 (35% down to 31%), and among southerners (46% down to 41%).

3% !!!!!!!! 4% !!!!!!11 hahahahahahaha

12:24 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

btw, those were some kind of "rebuttals," John...nothing quite so sad yet hilarious as watching some poor fool torture himself into knots like that...

See, here's how sane people do it:

Is Medicare a gov program?

Yes

Are people who don't know that morons?

Yes.

Are those morons Republicans?

Yes.

Are those Republicans morons?

soitanly.

See, how easy it is when your grip on life doesn't depend on lying about the nature of 2+2 ?

12:29 PM  
Blogger John said...

Who is Orly Taitz? Small fry. Can't you find someone more prominent to make some sweeping point about supposed GOP corruption and sleaze?

Take the House & Means Committee chairman, for example. Charlie Rangel. Or the '04 nominee for Vice President, John Edwards. Or the previous party president, Bill Clinton, who got Impeached for Perjury, Subornation of Perjury, and Obstruction of Justice.

But you don't want to to there, because they're Democrats. In fact, you and your crowd's loud, obsessive attacks on obscure, registered Republicans--most of whom are private citizens, and the majority of the attacks lambasting their private, sexual proclivities-- are just petty, vindictive, and
projecting retaliation (exactly like the ridiculous, jejune, five-year+ "Bush-Is-Liar-Liar-Pants-On-Fire" campaign in retaliation for the Perjury Impeachment of Clinton just prior, and while insanely projecting the clearly demonstrable fact that you yourselves were lying in the process).

And I'n sure O'Reilly was referring to a real public OPTION, and not one that is stealthily designed to put all private options out of business and leave it the only option left in town, which, of course, leaves no other options. O'Reilly
was just being flippant and unintentuonally gave the crowd that hates his guts (and who he is none too fond of), i.e. the "secular progressives", a tidbit taken out of context and jumped on as if a piece of red meat jumped on by a pack of snarling, rabid wolves who then triumphantly claim that O'Reilly is really a werewolf and now runs with you wolves ("So come, JOIN US!").

Same thing with Scarborough, who is about as conservative as McCain, and (like namby-pamby "Let's-All-Be-Friends" Huckabee) about as willing to fight the leftist wolfpack and call them what they are--i.e. rabiid, beta (if not omega) male wolves who gang up in packs but are
otherwise jackals and hyenas on their own, and think only about what they can scavenge--if not outright steal--from the conservative lions.

And so what if a Republican voter preferred Obama to
McCain?

I preferred Obama over Billary (and still do).

That's just preferring a bad thing over something worse.

And the confidence that Obama will fail to triangulate as shamelessly as Clinton did.

And aa far as the Republicans you cited go, that just goes to show you how liberal everyone considered McCain to be, and how well Obama pulled of the conservative ruse. You don't want to look at the statistics, though, of remorse of all the people who usually vote Reoublican but voted for Obama this time around, and are now mad as he'll because they suddenly realize that he's...black? That can't
be it. As Obama just told Letterman, he was black before he was elected president.

What really happened was that they suddenly realize that he's the alpha male wolf when they thought that they had a hunter (or at least a zookeeper).

Try to understand something, Stanley. I know you lefties have a hard time dealing with--or even understanding, for that matter--Reality, but the reality is that this is a center-right country, and your hateful ideology--so-called "Progressivism"--is only accepted by a clear minority of the population, and only really understood by a fringe fraction of that-- as well as by plenty on my side of the spectrum.

And we're a big problem for you because we know exactly what you're all about.

1:20 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Stats for the "center right country:...

Why does EVERYONE hate the right...
Here's your feel good story for the day:

In late July, Senator George Voinovich (R-Oh) publicly complained that the GOP is "being taken over by southerners." Minnesota's Republican governor Tim Pawlenty voiced similar fears a year ago. Maine's two senators, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins have also gone on record as worrying about the GOP's increasingly narrow base.

The future does not hold much hope for the GOP when the response of various demographics are taken into account.

Obama took 68% of voters aged 18-29. He took 68% of Hispanic voters. The young are the future of our country, and Latinos the most rapidly growing ethnic segment of America, and in neither case is favorable opinion of the Republican party currently above 5%.

As the GOP has thrown increasingly bizarre, frenzied, and sometimes racially motivated accusations at Obama, the positive view of the GOP has seen a steady and drastic reduction. In January, 40% of whites held a positive view of the GOP. Today, that figure is 25%. In January, 20% of Latinos held a positive view of the GOP. Today, that figure is 3%. Amongst voters under thirty years of age, that positive view of the GOP has plummeted from 27% to 4%. The two demographics which have seen somewhat steady positive views of the GOP are amongst voters aged 30 to 44 (35% down to 31%), and among southerners (46% down to 41%).

3% !!!!!!!! 4% !!!!!!11 hahahahahahaha

3:05 PM  
Blogger John said...

You have several bad cognitive habits, Stanley. For one, you like to refer to Olympia Snowe, John McCain, Joe Scarborough, and other RINOs not only as the official spokesmen for the GOP, but speaking on behalf of conservatives everywhere.

I would say that they are emblematic of today's post-Reagan GOP, and they are a very large reason why not only the minority party lost big in the last election and is polling poorly, but is why Obama won.

Another cognitive deficit you have are your reading comprehension abilities. You've obviously had poor schooling in a curriculum that emphasized unearned and unwarranted self-esteem that gives you the confidence to shoot your mouth off with nothing to back it up except the talking point Kool Aid your gurus pour down your throat before winding you up like a mechanical toy parrot so you jerk and clunker around squacking out the programmes buzzwords and talking points, oblivious to the substance of reasoned rebuttals, which are responded to with the jejune ad hominem du jour ("Teabagger! Squack! Birthers! Squack! Polly wanna cracker!"), or, in lieu of an ability to form a counter-argument relevant to what was said, you import Kook Aid propaganda from some guru who you think has some kind of irrefutable authority to the subject at hand by the same standards that give, say, Paul Begala--or Van Jones, for that matter--any authority on anything. By what standards, Stanley?

Surely not logic, if the consequential description of both your blurted ad hominems, the substance of the imported Kool Aid, and any feeble-minded, invective-filled attempt of yours to rebut rationally are any indication. They're all non sequiters (If not garbage statistics).

What I said, Stanley, is not that the country is currently made up of a majority of people who are registered Republicans, or even independents who usually vote Republican. I said this was a center-right country. I also said that the size of the far left--"progressives" like yourself--is nowhere near the magnitude needed to enact the kind of change you were deludedly--and forever more--
hoping for. The GOP is having problems precisely because they left the conservative reservation and began chumming around with you snakes--and being chumps in the process, because you'd stab them in the back if they ever started sounding sane again.

Anyway, yes, this is a center-right country, and the GOP is suffering because they forgot that.

You're response?

"Well, so-and-so says that the GOP is in really bad shape, so there. And you're just a stupid teabagger! hahaha!"

You're an imbecile.

4:52 PM  
Blogger John said...

Rebuttals For Stanley's "10 Lessons For Teabaggers Rebutted And Concluded

7) Barack Obama Was Born In The United States

Barack Obama was declared a citizen of Indonesia by his father in order to qualify him for enrollment in a Muslim school there (Some would call it a Madrassa, but I don't enough information to characterize it--or not-- as such.

I am not a "Birthed" nor do I care where if be has dual citizenship (if he does or did, I don't know the details nor how accurate the extant information on that is).

The issue here is deception. One can not really blame anyone for speculating on the unusual (i.e. Hawaiian) birth record and find Obama's dismissive behavior on them suspect because he keeps all his other records under lock & key (from college transcipts to medical records).

If he was half as forthcoming as Republicans are demanded to be (and they comply), then he would probably get a lot of those people (especially the "Birthers") off of his back. But maybe he has something to hide, and so can't.

8) 70,000 Does Not Equal 2,000,000

So we're getting a lesson in numbers from someone who apparently doesn't know that nine "lessons" do not equal ten.

Anyway, that's just another snide heckle that tries to rub in a lowballed number of 9/12 participants in the faces of those who say that it was close to 2,000,000, never questioning for a moment the accuracy of the lowballed number.

The historic point that he tries to belittle is that the 9/12 turnout was an unprecedented--in size---grassroots turnout of average, American citizens showing up at the government's front yard and telling it to back off.

It was a hugely succesful turnout of American citizens from all across the country, not belonging to any single, binding organization, except the United States itself.

They were peaceful, cheerful, and proudly exercised their Constitutional Right to free assembly.

And the unhinged left really, really hates them.

And they're the same leftists who, in the next breath, after venting their visceral contempt--if not murderous hate-- for
the average American citizen, then demand that their political kind be trusted with overseeing healthcare for the hated average American citizens.

It's like someone saying, "I really hate you and will hahaha if you ever get sick or when you die, but you have to trust me when I tell you that I know what's best for you health-wise."

Duh, okay, sure I will. Here, I'll pay you in higher taxes for the privilege, too.

9) The Economy Almost Always Does Better Under Democrats

Yeah. "Almost," but not quite. Actually, it's more like "almost never doing better" under Democrats.

Presidentially, before Obama--i.e. The Ten Trillion Dollar
Debt & 10% Unemployment Man Soon To Be Walloped By Inflation-- there was Bill Clinton and the dot.com boom & bust balloon. You should thank Bill Gates for any good
things about that economy. And Newt Gingrich and the Contract With America.

Indeed, the ebb and tide of the American macroeconomy--inasmuch as it isn't cyclical--can be attributed to the actions of congress moreso than to a sitting president. He can submit his budget, but their the ones who have to greenlight it--after they try to stampede and squeeze in an entire herd of swine into the president's cow shed.

Sure enough, the economy was surging steadily up until the Democrats took back the full congress in '06. Two years later..

Anyway, the last Democrat before Clinton was Carter. You don't want to talk about Carter's economy.

Stagflation is an ugly word.

But what do you expect? You had both a Democrat in the White House and Democrats controlling congress.

Like now, come to think it.

Fasten your seatbelts.

8:47 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Can we hear some grotesquely labored, strained and desperate screed filled with wretched, overlong, adjective riddled "sentences" dealing with this? It must be so terribly exhausting to try SOOOOOOOOO hard to deny and delude yourself about EVERYTHING...you can actually feel it in this poor, tiresome weirdo's "prose."

US leading economic index up for fifth month in a row
Published: Monday September 21, 2009

The index of US leading economic indicators rose 0.6 percent in August, marking a fifth consecutive increase and offering more signs of economic recovery, the Conference Board said Monday.

The business research firm said its forward-looking index of economic conditions in the coming months extended its gains after a revised 0.9 percent increase in July and a 0.8 percent jump in June.

"Since reaching a peak in July 2007, the (leading index) fell for 20 months -- the longest downtrend since the mid 1970s -- but it has been rising since April and its gains have become very widespread," says Ataman Ozyildirim, economist at The Conference Board.

"The six-month growth rate of the (index) continues to accelerate."

Other indexes in the research firm's survey appeared to steady. The coincident index of current activity was unchanged in August, after a 0.1 percent rise in July.

The lagging index fell 0.1 percent in August after a 0.5 percent drop in July.

"Taken together, this suggests that the recession is bottoming out," said Conference Board economist Ken Goldstein. "These numbers are consistent with the view that after a very severe downturn, a recovery is very near."

10:57 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

It's kinda nice seeing the Left-wing trolls out and about again. They got cocky after the election and went home. Now, they're p*ssin' in their diapers again...

I can't wait 'till Jeb becomes President...

5:17 AM  
Blogger John said...

My #1 choice. Can you imagine the mass, psychotic breakdown?

8:45 AM  
Blogger John said...

While this Bozo (i.e. "Stanley"--who I'm pretty sure is lying about being a newbie) tries to vindctively retaliate against the Oklahoman study that revealed the failure of public education to produce literates by citing an uncited poll that claims that most Oklahomans don't know who the first president is (it's a bogus poll), Glenn Beck today points out that test scores in Utah--which spends the least on education--are nearly identical to test scores in NY-- which spends the most.

Poor lefties. They get hit by a cannonball of reality on one side, angrily shoot off a pop-gun (a pretend weapon), only to get whaled by another cannonball coming from the other side. Then they call the cannons "racist" before skulking away.

9:49 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Is this pathetic birdbrain still whining about the terrible attack on Oklahoma? Too fuggink funny!!The scurrilous "attack" was made by a conservative group, probably in hopes of demonstrating how smart GOP mutants are...rotsa ruck. Stupidity and ignorance are necessary for GOOPism to survive...and now they're down to less than FIVE PERCENT!!! amongst the nation's youth...they've got a great future...well, maybe without the retrograde scumbags the country can revive in about fifty years.


2.8% Of Oklahoma High School Students Pass Citizenship Test
by Gary Norton
The Oklahoma Council of Public Affair, a conservative public policy research organization commissioned a study aimed at determining the level of basic civics knowledge of Oklahoma High School students. To their dismay the study revealed that only 23% of students knew that our first President was George Washington and only 2.8% of the students scored well enough on the test to be eligible for US citizenship.

The study was done by Strategic Visions on behalf of the Council. They took ten questions randomly selected from the one hundred used by US Citizenship and Immigration Services to test applicants for citizenship. To become citizens, applicants have to get six out of ten correct. Here are the questions and results.

Question Percentage of Correct Answers


What is the supreme law of the land? 28

What do we call the first ten amendments to the Constitution? 26

What are the two parts of the US Congress? 27

How many justices are there on the Supreme Court? 10

Who wrote the Declaration of Independence? 14

What ocean is on the east coast of the United States? 61

What are the two major political parities in the United States? 43

We elect a US senator for how many years? 11

Who was the first President of the United States? 23

Who is in charge of the executive branch? 29

When this test is given to applicants for citizenship, 92% score high enough to pass, while only 2.8% of Oklahoma high school students make the grade.

10:23 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

What scumbag "conservatism" brings...they are nothing but evil, fitlth spreading scum fouling the earth...

Water pollution in Florida’s Lake Okeechobee has reached new record levels and threatens to get worse, according to U.S. Environmental Protection Agency figures jointly released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) and the Council of Civic Associations, Inc. The key pollutant, phosphorus, has approximately doubled in Lake Okeechobee over the past decade and is now at a level four times the legal limit, making prospects for restoring the Everglades remote. 9/24

10:47 AM  
Blogger John said...

Ok, I'll concede that I jumped to the wrong conclusion when I assumed that it was a tit-for-tat because of a similar study conducted in Oklahoma that showed similar results nationwide (which implicates the liberalized education culture as the culprit). The timing was just too convenient, for one, and, for two, those kinds of coincidences are all too frequent to be just coincidence.

Whenever the left starts to hoot and holler about anything that's at the expense of the GOP or conservatives (they're not one and the same, knucklehead), 99.99% of the time it's on the heels of something that convicts them of the same thing that they're hooting and hollering about.

They usually explain the obvious cause and effect as being driven by a (dubiously) righteous impetus to point out hypocrisy, but much more often it is the venting of psychodynamic venting in an attempt to deflect attention away from their own guilt on the very matter they suddenly become self-righteous about, whether it's on private sexual behaviors, tax-evasion, elitism, greed, deceit, racism, sexism, illiteracy, and, of course, hyocrisy itself.

11:17 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

I think Stanley needs to stop using so much lawn fertilizer. I mean, just how "green" does an environmental whacko's lawn got to be? Just look what he's doing to the Everglades and Lake Okeechobee!

Wanna bet he still uses DDT to get rid of mosquito's in his back yard???

11:19 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

Someone ought to release a live Snakehead into Lake Okeechobee. That way the environmental whacko purists would demand that we poison it, then drain it; and so we could start all over building up the phosphorous load for another three decades...

11:49 AM  
Blogger John said...

I feel sorry for them sometimes. They've been conditioned by the Kool Aid to see a sick planet groaning under the weight misery and "injustice" brought upon by some evil "establishment" that must be overthrown so as to allow their Marxist system to become established and--by magic--solve all the problems that they incessantly moan and groan over. What they don't realize is that the overwhelming bulk of the misery is caused by the fallen angels of our human nature, and while conservatives recognize that and try their best to overcome and master it--for themselves, first--these idiots have had theirs fanned and inflamed by their manipulative gurus for the sake of compelling them to rise up and carry out that revolution.

And that's what a "community organizer" does: he targets a community, enters it, and tells The People how miserable they are, who's to blame, and offers a panacea which usually involves scapegoating the Haves and forcing them to "share" with the Have-Nots so everyone can live happily ever after in Lennonesque imaginary world like Teletubby
Land (except for the elitist ruling class, that gives the orders when to wake, what to do and not to do, and when
it's time for beddy-by).

1:28 PM  
Blogger John said...

There's something very odd--and very familiar--about this "Stanley" character. Sometimes I could swear it's Larry Blivious, other times Simian, and still other times I think I can hear Lana Banana's voice. Hm.

6:27 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The Rabid, Rotten Reich in Action:

Kentucky Census Worked Found Hanged with 'Fed" Carved in his Chest...

keep it up, you freaks...

8:02 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Today's Republican Carnival Freaks:

Kansas Republican Congressman Todd Tiahrt (pronounced 't-heart') may have had an easy summer, with health reform town halls stacked to the hilt with right-wing activists willing to believe outrageous myths about the proposed legislation.

But that easy ride seems to have come to an end for the representative.

At a recent Kansas town hall, Tiahrt tried to pass off something of a whopper -- claiming that Democrats want to establish a panel to set doctors' pay rates.

"[They're] gonna set up a committee to determine what every doctor in America will make," he claimed. "They will set that fee, every doctor will make the same ..."

The audience erupted into laughter and boos.

These guys invited Palin to this thing in the first place as a JOKE...and she was fucking stupid enought to go..

Delegates walk out 'in disgust' at Palin speech

Questions are prearranged; 'It was awful,' one US delegate says

HONG KONG — Former US vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin said the US government was wasting taxpayers' money and could aggravate poverty, said delegates at her first speech outside North America on Wednesday.

Palin, the former governor of Alaska, gave hundreds of financial big-hitters at the CLSA Investors' Forum in Hong Kong a wide-ranging speech that covered Alaska, international terrorism, US economic policy and trade with China.


Two US delegates left early, with one saying "it was awful, we couldn't stand it any longer". He declined to be identified.






Another said: "She frightens me because she strikes a chord with a certain segment of the population and I don't like it."

CLSA, an arm of French bank Credit Agricole, said it closed Palin's session to the media after she indicated that she would have to adjust her speech if reporters were present.


haha...yes, she would have to hire a high skool grajooate to rite it

8:16 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The Rabid, Rotten Reich in Action:

They are not only keeping it up;
they are accelerating their descent...will Limbaugh call for the segregation of restaurants so black mothers can be safe from honkie scumbags?

Felony charges for Cracker Barrel assault suspect
By Megan Matteucci


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
A man charged with attacking an Army reservist outside a Clayton County Cracker Barrel is back in jail and facing felony charges.

Enlarge photo Morrow Police Morrow police arrested Troy Dale West of Poulan after reviewing a video surveillance tape and talking to customers. He was charged with battery, disorderly conduct and cruelty to children.

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Troy Dale West Jr., 47, was indicted Wednesday on charges of aggravated assault, false imprisonment, first degree cruelty to children, two counts of battery and two counts of disorderly conduct, Clayton County District Attorney Tracy Graham Lawson said.

Clayton County Superior Court Judge Geronda V. Carter issued a warrant for West Wednesday morning and then denied him bond.

West is charged with beating and kicking Tashawnea Hill as she walked out of the Morrow restaurant on Sept. 9. Hill's 7-year-old daughter watched as West assaulted her mother while yelling racial slurs, police said.

According to the indictment, West used his "shoe-clad foot and hands" to cause serious bodily injury to Hill.

West also maliciously caused "cruel and excessive mental pain" to the child by assaulting and battering her mother in front of her while "using profane and vulgar language," the indictment reads.

About 150 people, including NAACP members and other civil rights activists, rallied at the courthouse Wednesday, urging the judge to deny bond for West.

Earlier this month, a Magistrate Court judge dismissed the only felony charge West faced and released him from jail.

That's when Lawson stepped in and launched an investigation into the crime, saying that it appeared to be more severe.

"Based upon a review of witness statements and the video, an indictment was presented to the grand jury and they rendered a true bill," Lawson said Wednesday.

The result means if convicted, West could face a decade in prison.

The attack occurred as Hill and her daughter were leaving the restaurant and West was walking inside. Hill told West to be careful after the door almost hit her child, police said.

West became enraged and then attacked the woman, Morrow police Capt. James Callaway said.

"She kept saying, ‘Sir, I'm a United States soldier, don't do this, ‘ " he said.

The FBI is also investigating the attack as a possible hate crime.

8:26 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

I wonder why the Baucus Committee doesn't want anybody to be able to read their Health Scare bill before voting on it... NOT!

That was a joke, son.

7:45 AM  
Blogger the liberal samurai said...

Like you I've chosen to stay on the sidelines. Believe of me what you will but I wasn't one of the trolls posting offensive material making nobody look good.

9:52 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

America Hating Reich's Freak of the Day:

Is Chuck Norris advocating desecration of the American flag?

For years, right-wingers burned under the collar as they watched protesters set fire to the American flag. Now, with conservatives on the outside of political power in Washington, it looks like it may be their turn to use the flag to score political points.

Action flick star and conservative activist Chuck Norris seems an unlikely person to promote the desecration of the American flag, but in a recent comment piece he penned, he may have done just that.

In an article published earlier this week at the conservative news site WorldNetDaily, Norris suggested that supporters of the Tea Party movement find historical flags, such as the 13-star Betsy Ross flag, to fly in front of their homes as a symbol of opposition to the policies of the current government.

"I suggest you fly some revolutionary flag in lieu of your 50 star flag over the next year or so. Post the 13-star Betsy Ross flag, Navy Jack or Gadsden flag ("Don't Tread On Me") or any representation that tells the story of Old Glory and makes a stand for our founders' vision of America," Norris wrote.

The star of the Missing in Action movies and Walker, Texas Ranger added: "If you insist on posting a modern USA flag too, then get one that has been tea stained, to show your solidarity with our founders."

The words "tea stained" are hyperlinked to a page at the "WND superstore" that offers a "Tea Stained (Heritage) Mahogany 50-star Flag Kit" for $73.50.

Norris' move has angered more than a few commentators.

"Once again Norris encourages the next Timothy McVeigh to act," blogs Ron Moore at Examiner.com. "Shouts of 'You lie' may be followed by shouts of 'You die' if this rhetoric continues. Then flags will be lowered; to half-staff. Doesn’t anyone on the right have the courage to stand up for the people’s right to choose a leader?"

Meanwhile, Ed Brayton at ScienceBlogs nominated Norris' suggestion for "Dumbass quote of the day."

"Can you imagine if some liberal deliberately stained a flag to make a political statement?" Brayton wrote. "They would be condemned as heathens, traitors and, at the very least, probably French."

11:41 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

It sounds like the sideline is a good place for "the liberal samurai."

11:52 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Backass finally realizes he has to go to where the rest of the country is...on the left:

Baucus -- whom progressives have been mocking all summer as he tried to cut a deal with the GOP -- seemed to be moving back to the left again. Before the panel even started voting, he agreed to extensive modifications, mostly suggested by his fellow Democrats, to make the legislation more generous to lower-income people who need federal subsidies to buy insurance...

His aides didn't appear to mind that Baucus also came under fire from Republicans, insurance companies and their allies, including the Wall Street Journal's conservative Op-Ed page, for getting the federal government to pressure insurer Humana Inc. to stop spreading propaganda against the reform bill. Baucus appeared to be trying to send a signal that he might not remain as friendly with industry as it once seemed as the bill moves along.

The main message of the day, notwithstanding any complaints about what was in the proposed bill, was that it was moving along. "All the years I've worked on healthcare, I've never seen such a promising opportunity as you have put here before us," said West Virginia Democrat Jay Rockefeller, a staunch defender of keeping a public insurance option in the reform bill.

But Baucus and his Democratic colleagues appeared more in sync than they had been all summer...

"No one should die because they cannot afford healthcare," Baucus said. "This bill would fix that ... No one should go bankrupt because they get sick. This bill would fix that."

If Democrats can hold together through the rest of the week (and maybe longer) as the committee works through Baucus' proposal, there's a good chance that some legislation will emerge that reforms the insurance market, bars insurers from discriminating based on preexisting conditions and gives most Americans access to at least some form of healthcare. After a summer of lies and angry mobs doing all they could to block healthcare reform, it's still moving along as the fall begins.

12:08 PM  
Blogger John said...

Sanjay, I'm glad to hear that. Please pardon my assumption.

And have a good look at your liberal brothers-in-arms here, and think about the nature of the team you're playing for (they pretty much represent it).

"Stanley," bye, is a composite creature of several of the trolls who had infested Republicus anonymously and then
vanished when I enabled the feature that disallowed anonymous posters. So what they did was collectively open a single blog account under the name "Stanley" and can now renter blogs under a blog identify but one that is actually possessed by several demons (fathead/blivious, lana banana, lib fem, simian, blossom, etc.--though it may come down to being just 2-4).

And hark, they speak:

"Can we hear some grotesquely labored, strained and desperate screed filled with wretched, overlong adjective-riddled 'sentences' dealing with this?"

We just did.

4:06 PM  
Blogger the liberal samurai said...

No Prob John. With all the traffic back then the confusion is well understood. With respect to the current traffic... For every George Will conservative there are a dozen rhetorical rabble rowsers like Glenn Beck. Its hard to paint everyone with the same brush. Dialogue like this on either side just serves to make both sides look bad. Which is why I'm staying on the sidelines.

4:43 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Well, it is making one side look pretty bad.. I'll grant you that, LS. Thankfully, it's not mine.

4:55 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Liberal Nation Wants Public Option:

From the new Times/CBS poll out this evening ...

"Would you favor or oppose the government offering everyone a government administered health insurance plan -- something like the Medicare coverage that people 65 and older get -- that would compete with private health insurance plans?"

Favor 65%
Oppose 26%

Interestingly, according to the poll, support for a public option has jumped 5 points since late August and opposition to it has dropped 8 points.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Who IS this paranoid moron?...

"and can now renter blogs under a blog identify but one that is actually possessed by several demons..."

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet shit...is there even one left who can even make sense?

7:38 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Why Republican Children Grow Up Retarded:

Children who are spanked have lower IQs, new research finds
Children who are spanked have lower IQs worldwide, including in the United States, according to new groundbreaking research by University of New Hampshire professor Murray Straus. The research results will be presented Friday, Sept. 25, 2009, at the 14th International Conference on Violence, Abuse and Trauma, in San Diego, Calif.
NIH/National Institute of Mental Health, University of New Hampshire

8:48 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Sanjay, deep down I just knew you wouldn't stoop to being a troll.

Now, see Flat Stanley...it is possible to be liberal and not behave like you...if the left is ever to engage in any sort of convincing arguments it would NOT be because of the flat Stanley.

Nice to see you back, Sanjay.

11:17 PM  
Blogger John said...

I meant: "And can now re-enter blogs as a single identity (i.e. Blogger "Stanley"), but is actually possessed by several demons ( namely, fathead/blivious, Karl/Simian, Blossom/Lib Fem, etc.).

One of a half-dozen clues that lead to the obvious conclusion was their deciding upon "Stanley" being 37 years old. But these are the voices of teeny-boppers.
20-somethings, at most.

Btw, Why do you call "him" "flat Stanley," Kelly?

And did you read my note about my typos? I guess not. You just like shooting your collective mouth off without being privvy to the facts.

6:45 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

You ever read the book Flat Stanley as a kid? Gets around, but really there isn't much substance to him.

8:20 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Obama is finally hitting his stride...and he's done some good things lately...stopped the lunatic missile shield, stopped the mountain top removal weevils, continued tough on Israel, showing more spine on both the health care and climate debates among other moves...If he continues to move left, he will be the nemesis who will administer the coup de grace that the foul, raving right is begging for on whining, tattered knees more every day.

A just-released New York Times poll finds President Obama "is going into the fall having retained considerable political strength. At 56%, his job approval rating is down from earlier in the year but still reasonably strong at this point compared with recent presidents."

10:28 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Did you mean privy?...kind of hard to hit that v key twice unless your a spazmo, typobrain. Typical whining wingbat...learn to type, learn some grammar and sentence structure and quit crying for mercy you pathetic child.

Amazing, btw, how much effect those mature, reasoned arguments of yours are having...the country is so turned off by your lunatic ravings that it is unmatched in history...yet you manage to hide your head up your fat, GOOP asses and project your problems on to the mature two thirds of society.

10:43 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Yeah, Sanjay...yooz a good, lil slave...de kine white massah be likin...

Samurai, my ass...I bet this weenie uses the same thing for a sword that he uses in bed... a wet noodle.

10:49 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Stanley can't even cope with a liberal who is civil. If ye don't march with him he hates ya.

It his kind that are trying to bring down our country. They can't stand patriotism. They can't handle freedom.

11:35 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

How to talk to complete idiots
Three basic options. Choose wisely, lest you go totally insane
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

There are three basic ways to talk to complete idiots.

The first is to assail them with facts, truths, scientific data, the commonsensical obviousness of it all. You do this in the very reasonable expectation that it will nudge them away from the ledge of their more ridiculous and paranoid misconceptions because, well, they're facts, after all, and who can dispute those?

Why, idiots can, that's who. It is exactly this sort of logical, levelheaded appeal to reason and mental acuity that's doomed to fail, simply because in the idiotosphere, facts are lies and truth is always dubious, whereas hysteria and alarmism resulting in mysterious undercarriage rashes are the only things to be relied upon.

Examples? Endless. You may, for instance, attempt to explain evolution to an extreme fundamentalist Christian. You may offer up carbon dating, the fossil record, glaciers, any one of 10,000 irrefutable proofs. You may even dare to talk about the Bible as the clever, completely manufactured, man-made piece of heavily politicized, massively edited, literary myth-making it so very much is, using all sorts of sound academic evidence and historical record.

You are, of course, insane beyond belief to try this, but sometimes you just can't help it. To the educated mind, it seems inconceivable that millions of people will choose rabid ignorance and childish fantasy over, say, a polar bear. Permafrost. Rocks. Nag Hammadi. But they will, and they do. Faced with this mountain of factual obviousness, the bewildered fundamentalist will merely leap back as if you just jabbed him with a flaming homosexual cattle prod, and then fall into a swoon about how neat it is that angels can fly.


But it's not just the fundamentalists. This Rule of Idiocy also explains why, when you show certain jumpy, conservative Americans the irrefutable facts about, say, skyrocketing health care costs that are draining their bank accounts, and then show how Obama's rather modest overhaul is meant to save members of all ages and genders and party affiliations a significant amount of money while providing basic insurance for their family, they, too, will scream and kick like a child made to eat a single bite of broccoli.

Remember, facts do not matter. The actual Obama plan itself does not matter. Fear of change, fear of the "Other," fear of the scary black socialist president, fear that yet another important shift is taking place that they cannot understand and which therefore makes them thrash around like a trapped animal? This is all that matters.

This is why, even when you whip out, say, a fresh article by the goodly old Washington Post -- not exactly a bastion of lopsided liberalthink -- one that breaks down the rather brutal truth about the real cost of health care in this country, it will likely be hurled back in your face as an obvious piece of liberal propaganda. Go ahead, try it. Or better yet, don't.

Option two is to try to speak their language, dumb yourself down, engage on the idiot's level as you try to figure out how their minds work -- or more accurately, don't work -- so you can better empathize and find a shred of common ground and maybe, just maybe, inch the human experiment forward.

This is, as you already sense, a dangerous trap, pure intellectual quicksand. It almost never works, and just makes you feel gross and slimy. Nevertheless, plenty of shrewd political strategists believe that the best way for Obama and the Dems to get their message across regarding everything from health care reform to new environmental regulation, would be to steal a page from the Glenn Beck/Karl Rove/sociopath's playbook, and start getting stupid.

11:35 AM  
Blogger John said...

"Still reasonably strong at this point compared to other presidents"? Typical spin. Compared to other presidents, no one has fallen faster.

And it's good to see the president backpedaling from the original nationalization of health care agenda faster than his polls dropped.

"Natiomalization? Who, me? Nah, I've got enough to worry about running banks and trying to sell cars. I always just wanted to tweak it here and there as needed, just like the Ameriican people want."

Yeah, sure ya did!

11:35 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Part II

It's all about the bogus catchphrases, the sound bites, the emotional punches-to-the-gut. Death panels! Rationing! Fetus farms! Puppy shredders! Commie medicine! Gay apocalypse! Forced vaccinations! Exposed nipples during prime-time! Let one of these inane, completely wrong but oh-so-haunting verbal ticks bite into the below-average American brainstem, and watch your cause bleed all over the headlines.

The big snag here is that the Dems, unlike the Republican Party, aren't really beholden to a radical, mal-educated base of fundamentalist crazies to keep them afloat. Truly, the political success of the liberal agenda does not depend on the irrational, Bible-crazed "value voter" who's terrified of gays, believes astronomy is a hoax and thinks Jesus spoke perfect English and really liked giving hugs.

In other words, there really is little point in the liberals adopting this strategy, save for the fact that the major media eats it up and it might serve to counterbalance some of the more ridiculous conservative catchphrases. What's more, it could also give the whiny, bickering Dems something slightly cohesive to rally around -- because the truth is, the Democratic Party isn't all that bright, either.

And now we come to option three, easily the finest and most successful approach of all. Alas, it also remains the most difficult to pull off. No one is exactly sure why.

The absolute best way to speak to complete idiots is, of course, not to speak to them at all.

That is, you work around them, ignore them completely, disregard the rants and the spittle and the misspelled protest signs and the fervent prayers for apocalypse on Fox News. Complete refusal to take the fringe nutballs even the slightest bit seriously is the only way to make true progress.

This also happens to be the invaluable advice of one Frank Schaeffer, noted author and a former fundamentalist nutball himself, who made a simply superb appearance on Rachel Maddow's show recently, wherein he offered up one of the most articulate, fantastic takedowns of the fundamentalist idiot's mindset in recent history. It's a must-watch. Do it. Do it now.

Now, you may argue that, while Schaeffer may be dead right and also rather deserving of being quoted far and wide, it's also true that calling people stupid is no way to advance the debate, and is itself rather childish and stupid. And you'd be absolutely right.

But you'd also be missing the point. When you ignore the idiots completely, you are not calling them anything at all. You are not trying to advance any sort of argument, because there is no debate taking place. You are simply bypassing the giant pothole of ignorance entirely.

You are not kowtowing to the least educated of your voting bloc, like the GOP is so desparetely fond of doing. You are not trying to give the idiotosphere equal weight in the discussion. As Schaeffer says, "You cannot reorganize village life to suit the village idiot." By employing option three, you are doing the only humane thing left to do: you are letting the idiotosphere eat itself alive.

Do it for the children, won't you?

11:36 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Wingo morons like to tell us how afraid they are of the gummint...but the naive little suckers loved to be kicked around by criminal corporations:

One of the worst abuses of private insurance companies is the practice of using spurious reasons to deny claims. In April, Rosalinda Miran-Ramirez awoke and found her shirt soaked in blood. Realizing that her “her left breast [was] bleeding from the nipple,” she rushed to the emergency room.
Today, CBS-5 reports that this San Francisco Department of Public Health employee has had her claim denied because her insurance company, Blue Shield of California, didn’t consider her situation to be an “emergency.” Even though her doctor told her it was likely a tumor, Blue Shield said that Miran-Ramirez should have known it wasn’t:

But Miran-Ramirez said the real shock came when her insurance company, Blue Shield of California HMO, which had initially approved the claim for the emergency room visit, reversed course and sent her a new bill three months later requiring her to pay the total charges for that visit: $2,791.00.
Why? Documents from Blue Shield indicate the company had reviewed the case and determined Miran-Ramirez “reasonably should have known that an emergency did not exist.”
“I am like how can they say that it was not an emergency? Like, my breast was bleeding! I am not a clinical person but if your breast is bleeding, for me that’s an emergency,” she said. [...]
So she appealed. And she was denied again. This time Blue Shield told her she hadn’t been in “any acute distress.”

5:29 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

All this weenie can do is knock over straw men...and pretend to knock up his blow up dollie. There never was any "original nationalization plan," you fraud.

But it's clear that there should be. The way we'll get there is through the states, a significant number of which are already developing their own state run plans. When we get enough of these, the resistance of dumb asses will have withered away and we can do what grown ups do...use OUR government for our own collective good.

5:34 PM  
Blogger John said...

Again, Fathead, your reading comprehension abilities are abysmal. I never said there was an actual nationalization "plan" (a 1000-pages of "reform" notwithstanding). I said there was a nationalization "agenda," which you yourself confirm with your state-by-state strategy, dolt.

Obama was right on board with that. The American people just want reforms here and there where needed, and that's exactly where he now pretends he was at all along ( when you know damn well he was right with you, until he realized that it was too unpopular (as far left things are) and had to throw you and your cuckoo quack medical plan under the
bus next to Jeremiah Wright, his mom, and Van Jones as he continues to triangulate away from your loser ideology (and its loser adherents) and starts to walk and talk like a Republican.

It really is a beautiful thing to see him go--practically overnight-- from Ghandi to George W. Bush what with the opportunity to do a Saddam/Iraq redux on Ahmedinejad/Iran.

Don't you think so?

He should go for it. Like Iraq, Iran would be a lot easier to
transform (i.e. Westernize) than Afghanistan will be, maybe even easier than Iraq was.

This could easily turn into the ugliest first term since Abe Lincoln's.

It's already halfway there.

7:23 PM  
Blogger John said...

So you goons all pile into a Volkswagon bug named
"Stanley" and essentially drive it down to the local right-
wing radio station--i.e. Republicus @ 101 FM-- and crash it
through the glass doors. Then you all jump out of the bug
hooting and hollering like Clockwork Orange droogs and start tossing paper airplanes made of the folded-up pamphlets you get from Media Matters, Gaily Kos, and the Huffing-&-Puffington Post, and start shooting off fire-
extinguishers when your host goes on the air, essentially
behaving like unruly children, pests, and general nuisances.

And one of those girls calls me "immature," before poking
her tongue out and stomping away, after pasting a long-winded likely-story that gives orders and "explains" (much-too-much, methinks) that the left should stop trying to engage in reasonable debate with the stoopit wingbats (it's actually wingnuts), and should just...ignore them!

And they say there is no God.

8:17 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Ignoring you morons is the only sound advice there is...and I follow it 23 1/2 hrs per day...but it's so fun to kick your pathetic asses around for a few minutes occasionally that I just can't resist. The laugh for today is watching this weirdo fool try to present O as the most radical liberal of all time and as GW all at the same time...and then making a grotesque fool of himself by knocking over both imaginary straw men at the same time. Like Schaeffer says... just stand back and watch them fall in the nearest hole. Is it so teddibly wrong that I like to go over and piss on them after they've fallen in? Is it? Rilly, I do it for the children.

11:34 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The slimy right that America is learning to hate...this goes directly to comments by Bachmann, Palin and other filthy, little gauleiters of the GOP...

Witness: Census worker’s body found naked, bound, gagged

By Muriel Kane
Friday, September 25th, 2009

The Associated Press reported on Friday evening that according to a witness, the Kentucky teacher and part-time census worker who was found dead and with a rope around his neck in a remote area of a national forest on September 12 was also naked, bound, and gagged when his body was discovered.

Jerry Weaver was attending a family reunion when he and a group of relatives went to visit family graves at a cemetery in the forest and found the body of Bill Sparkman.

Weaver told the AP, “The only thing he had on was a pair of socks. And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something. And they even had duct tape around his neck. And they had like his identification tag on his neck. They had it duct-taped to the side of his neck, on the right side, almost on his right shoulder.”

Weaver also said that a pickup was parked nearby with Sparkman’s clothes in the bed of the truck. “I thought he could have been killed somewhere else and brought there and hanged up for display, or they actually could have killed him right there,” Weaver stated. “It was a bad, bad scene.”

Police would not comment on Weaver’s remarks, but two people with knowledge of the investigation did confirm certain details, such as the fact that Sparkman’s census identification badge was taped in the area of his head and shoulder.

11:53 AM  
Blogger John said...

Obama is the mostl leftist ever to occupy the presidency. You gloated so yourself, fool, during the campaign and at the beginning of his term when you deludedly thought that the opposition was steamrolled and The Agenda would be rammed down their gaping throat with zero resistance.

And the Left's long, national nightmare would be finally over, the Culture War won.

There would be an immediate pullout from Iraq and closing
of GITMO. No more "un-Constitutional" eavesdropping on
citizens. No more Predator strikes on homes. No more skirting of the Geneva Convention by renditioning. No more lobbyists. No more corporate influence. And finally, we would havr a new era of government transparency and accountability.

None of that came true. Not only was everything continued, but all of that was enhanced/worsened.

Indeed, in those respects, Bush got a Third Term.

That has left your side reeling, disoriented, and as angry as
ever. Why are Bush & Cheney free men? Why are Rush and Coulter still spewing with impunity? How did Glenn Beck manage to inspire multitudes of average American citizens to march on DC (in protest of the statism that you
had prematurely ejaculated was now a done deal, and there was nothing that any "trog" could do about it)?

And how, you ask, can Obama be the most radical
Leftist to ever attain the presidency while simultaneously being Bush III?

I must be crazy to try to have it both ways.

...or you must be one of those idiots that Glenn Beck writes
about to think it's irreconcilably contradictory.

Nevermind going into Bush's own leftward lurches combined with the conservative elements in Obama's own packaging and even character that has enabled a rather seamless transition. Nevermind that.

And nevermind that there are also, similtaneously, core
differences between the two that allow someone--without contradicting himself-- to identify Obama as the most leftist president ever, and to characterize Bush as being more Reagan than Reagan.

What should concern you is the self-evidence that, while Bush's core conservativism compelled him to "stay the course"--whether sticking with an unpopular policy or
sticking by an unpopular friend, Obama's liberal nature compels him to flip-flop and oh-ah-um-uh change his mind and backpedal as polical circumstances dictate, and
throw his priest, his mother, his buddies, and his liberal ideas and base (i.e. You) under the bus if it would save his
own political hide, because leftist are, above all else, narcissists.

Furthermore, whether it's in terms of economic or foreign policy, liberalism is a notorious failure, and, to paraphrase
Churchill, it's fine for a young Chicago lawyer, university
lecturer, community organizer, and even senator to be
liberal, but if they remain so as they grow older, they become as ridiculously out-of-touch with reality as was
Uncle Teddy and as is Robert Byrd. So it behooves
anyone to grow more conservative as they age and grow
more powerful, and Obama himself seems to be quickly setting aside his childish, liberal ways and adapting to the conservative reality paved the way for him by none other
than... W.

That's why, fathead, GITMO is still open. Why apprehended terrorists are still being renditioned. Why Predator drones are breaking into homes in far more lethal fashion than Marines going door-to-door (a la "Genghis
Khan," suppossedly) ever did. That's why we're still in Iraq.

And that's why when it comes to actually implementing
government-run healthcare, the reality of both its inefficiency and unpopularity dissolves the hallucinatory
pipe-dream of the liberal leviathan and Obama has to
downgrade the concept into something along the lines of...Bush's Prescription Drug Benefit.  

6:06 PM  
Blogger John said...

You also say that, after accusing me of setting up the two, contradictory "strawmen" of Obama being both the most leftist president in history AND Bush III, that I then knock them both done. Presumably, such a conclusion is based on my ominous, closing statement that it was going to get "messy" (as it presumably did for Bush, a statement that supposedly both undermines my support and collapses the entire argument that is based on a "not-messy"/"messy" polarity.

Well, all of this explanatory digression is caused solely by your reading incomprehension. I neither set up two contradictory "strawmen" nor "bowled them both over" by the messy statement.

The messy statement was a messiness by your own standards. If you spent eight, messy years calling Bush a "criminal" and "The Worst President in History" because of stuff like waging "illegal wars" and conducting " illegal" operations like eavesdropping, renditioning, occupying Iraq, detaining peoplr at GITMO, and outting CIA personnel for political reasons, and for deficits, then it is going to get very messy.

6:26 PM  
Blogger John said...

RE: Executed Census Worker

Must be one of those religious nuts who dunnit. The Good Lord in the Old Testament punished one of the Israelite kings who took a census after being Commanded by God not to, so maybe the census worker was seen as some kind of apostate in that biblical context.

I suppose the killer could make a case in court if he was an ancient Israelite privy to God's Warning against cooperating with censuses, but a Christian would have a hard time of it, since Jesus would not have fulfilled prophecy by being born in Bethlehem if it wasn't for the Roman census that made his parents leave their home in Nazareth in the third trimester.

6:56 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Jesus! Does anyone read past the second or third paragraph of this pretzel head moron's ridiculous writhings? The more wrong he is, the more wind he blows.

Now, as if any were needed, more proof that the USA is a leftist nation...

New CBS/NY Times poll: 65% of Americans want the Public option 9/27

And, that AFTER the giant shit storm of lies put out by the reich's big blow machine. If you discount the wingbat crazies -- as everyone should and increasingly is -- that would be about 90%. I say we just work around them...for the children.

10:05 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Oh...here is another of the filthy, conservative emails that is going around. I got it three times today alone...along with a couple others equally vicious. All in all, that makes a slow day for this kind of monkey screed. Are they TRYING to make themselves look like evil dwarves, or are they just so happy they no longer have to hide what unabashed scum they are? It is very liberating, I suppose, for pigs like these to no longer feel the need to hide what they are.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

The term "Nigger Rigged" is no longer acceptable..
It will now be referred to as a "PRESIDENTIAL SOLUTION"

Thank You,
The United States Government

10:12 PM  
Blogger Alice Gorable said...

We don't need your DNC inspired racism here Stanley, especially when you try and blame conservatives for it. Either curb your racist tongue or LEAVE.

3:55 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Yes, I think Obama himself is sending these around...he's the president who is at once a radical liberal and a GW clone. I think he may be a black guy and a honky bigot at the same time, as well.

But, what really is amazing in the realm of inclusive opposites is how these wingbats want to be bigots and to denounce bigotry at the same time...now that's a real trick. Apparently, they're shameful, little creatures who know what they are but just can't give it up anywaze. Just one more sickness of the putrid, right wing brain.

Maybe that's ONE of the reasons they're at FIVE percent (!!!!!!!!!!) amongst the yoot of Americky. Which means that even the sons and datters of these sick dogs are rejecting mammy and pappy Yokum and their hillbilly stupidity. "We wanna go to town and have fun with the smart kids,"
they say. "Why do you make us go to these retard churches and believe all this out-of-it garbage? All the other kids are laughing at us like we're a bunch of hicks."

8:23 PM  
Blogger country anal said...

You'd be the one both advocating AND denouncing bigotry weasel breath. Now leave b4 we expose you again.

11:43 AM  
Blogger Henrietta said...

john, you're an ass hat

3:26 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

That Farmer John to you, race baiter.

3:48 PM  
Blogger Henrietta said...

ha..i was talking about the other john, but you're an ass hat, too.

4:02 PM  
Blogger country anal said...

...that would be, "You're an ass hat, three" race baiter.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Look at this shit!!
Weirdo nutcases from Hell.

At the How To Take Back America Conference last weekend, conservative speaker Kitty Werthmann led a workshop called “How to recognize living under Nazis & Communists.” Announcing the panel in a column preceding the conference, talk show host Janet Porter gushed how Werthmann’s description of Austria in the 1930s is a “mirror to America” today — noting “They had Joseph Goebbels; we have Mark Lloyd, the diversity czar.” The room was packed over capacity to hear Werthmann, who grew up as a Christian in Austria and serves as Phyllis Schlafly’s Eagle Forum South Dakota President.
During her session, Werthmann went through a litany of examples of how President Obama is like Adolf Hitler. She noted that Hitler, who acted “like an American politician,” was “elected in a 100% Christian nation.” Although she failed to once mention Antisemitism or militarism, Werthmann explained how universal healthcare, an Equal Rights Amendment, and increased taxes were telltale signs of Nazism. Werthmann also warned the audience.

If we had our guns, we would have fought a bloody battle. So, keep your guns, and buy more guns, and buy ammunition. [...] Take back America. Don’t let them take the country into Socialism. And I refer again, Hitler’s party was National Socialism. [...] And that’s what we are having here right now, which is bordering on Marxism.



Watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyfD_QIwjtA





Werthmann noted that her Nazism speech is gaining popularity. She not only has delivered it to several tea parties, but has been asked by “a group of bankers” to address them this month.
Before the event, ThinkProgress asked Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), one of several Republican members of Congress also speaking at the conference, to autograph Werthmann’s DVD about National Socialism. She happily obliged.

7:31 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

And this...endemic hatred and racial violence from the bigoted bowels of ReichAmeriKKKa:

Man, Two Teens Plead Innocent in Md. Hate Crime
September 28, 2009

A man and two teenagers have pleaded not guilty in what authorities describe as a racially motivated beating of an elderly black fisherman.

Attorneys for 28-year-old Calvin Lockner, 16-year-old Emmanuel Miller and 17-year-old Zachary Watson entered the pleas Monday in Baltimore Circuit Court. A trial date for the three defendants is set for Dec. 11.

Police say the three beat 76-year-old James Privott (pruh-VOHT') in an unprovoked attack last month as he fished in a waterfront park in south Baltimore. Lockner, who is nicknamed "Hitler" and has a tattoo of the Nazi leader, told police the attack wouldn't have happened if the victim had been white.

Will Limpballs call for segregation of beaches to protect old, black fishermen from vicious, white honkies?

7:40 PM  
Blogger John said...

lol

Thanks fj.

I commented earlier that, much more often than not, when some negative claim against the right is made by the left, you can be sure that it is actually a conveniently conducted (if not contrived) counterclaim to a pre-existing
claim that reflects negatively on the left. It should be noted that the first claim is carried out objectively while the second subjectively, with a political axe to grind against the first.

Usually, that first claim will not get much publicity (for obvious reasons), while the second, tit-for-tat claim will be loudly circulated (for the same reasons), and because the cause (i.e. the first claim, making the left look bad) is removed from the equation and only leaves the effect (i.e. the counter-claim making the right sound bad), the latter is presented as being singular and not reactive to anything else, that it us not actually a petty, vindictive, and puerile "I-Know-You-Are-But-What-Am-I" sophomoric copycat tactic.

It really is, and when those claims appear from the Left, you can bet that there are preexisting claims condemning that very Left for pretty much the same thing they are now trying to hang around the Right's neck.

As pointed out earlier, making the claims that they themselves are stigmatized by are either vented by unconscious projection, or conscious vindictiveness.

Often, when the Left naked it's sneering claim, your host is unaware of what they are reacting to, but has learned that they are reacting to something. And when something--apparently random--calls your host's attention to something that just do happens to reveal precisely what the Left is angrily reacting to, I call it "The Toto Phenomenon," of which regular readers of Republicus--my friends and allies--know about.

To be continued...

For example, if

8:05 PM  
Blogger John said...

continued...

I felt the presence of Toto when I stumbled upon a recent study by some group in Oklahoma that shed a poor light on test scores across the nation, which obviously makes the liberal education establishment look bad. That was on the heels of "Stanley" posting a different study lambasting the educational system of Oklahoma itself--"The Most Republican State"--which says more about the effectiveness of the public school system than it does about conservative ideology.

Anyway, it seemed apparent that one study--carried out in Oklahoma and making the state of education lool bad nationally--was the catalyst that gave rise to the second study fixating on Oklahoma itself.

However, it seems--however much "Stanley" can be trusted to provide truthful information--that the second study was carried out by a conservative group, which, if true, would nullify the usual cause-and-effect dynamic. That one, then, was really just a coincidence.

Make no mistake, however: The Left shamelessly operates in just that way, and it didn't take long for "Stanley" to prove it once again:

He gloated about some poll which supposedly (again, going out on a limb and granting some truthfulness to any information he provides, if only for the sake of argument) indicates that a majority of Americans now want the public option.

That is in clear counterreaction to the slew of recent pollls that show a clear majority of Americans opposing Obama's health plan as a whole. It's simply disinformation. They spew it out to sow confusion, especially when they're outnumbered. Basically, down on the ground, they grab a
fistful of sand and throw out in eyes to obscure the respective headcounts.

"Stanley" also has a reading incomprehension problem working against him, which doesn't justify his and his political kind's dirty fighting, but partly explains it (i.e. They can't win in a fair fight).

I pointed out that Obama is the most radically Leftist president--at heart and with original (if not still present) intent in American history. However, that does not preclude him from--quite ironically, and certainly mortifying for the Bush-hating leftist--turning into a Bush clone in important areas (particularly ones that he campaigned against and won on), of only our of political necessity, and that he didn't know what he was talking about on the campaign trail).

"Stanley" misread and ridiculed: "He can only be one or the other!"

I elaborated thoroughly--though unnecessarily for those who got it the first time--and he still ridiculed your host about being irreconcilably contradictory about Obama being both a hard leftist (a "centrist" to "Stanley," of course) and simultaneously filling in for a third Bush term.

There was no contradiction. I clarified that a second time because he didn't catch it the first time. Can he read? Or does he read? He did say that he had a hard time getting past the 2nd paragraph, whether due to reading difficulties or a spiteful refusal to hear the stronger counterargument and have to deal with the sundry implications of that.

Anyway, "Stanley" is just a mindless pest who is here only
to make noise and be disruptive.

At least one of "his" personalities is, anyway.

8:52 PM  
Blogger John said...

lol

Thanks fj.

I commented earlier that, much more often than not, when some negative claim against the right is made by the left, you can be sure that it is actually a conveniently conducted (if not contrived) counterclaim to a pre-existing
claim that reflects negatively on the left. It should be noted that the first claim is carried out objectively while the second subjectively, with a political axe to grind against the first.

Usually, that first claim will not get much publicity (for obvious reasons), while the second, tit-for-tat claim will be loudly circulated (for the same reasons), and because the cause (i.e. the first claim, making the left look bad) is removed from the equation and only leaves the effect (i.e. the counter-claim making the right sound bad), the latter is presented as being singular and not reactive to anything else, that it us not actually a petty, vindictive, and puerile "I-Know-You-Are-But-What-Am-I" sophomoric copycat tactic.

It really is, and when those claims appear from the Left, you can bet that there are preexisting claims condemning that very Left for pretty much the same thing they are now trying to hang around the Right's neck.

As pointed out earlier, making the claims that they themselves are stigmatized by are either vented by unconscious projection, or conscious vindictiveness.

Often, when the Left naked it's sneering claim, your host is unaware of what they are reacting to, but has learned that they are reacting to something. And when something--apparently random--calls your host's attention to something that just do happens to reveal precisely what the Left is angrily reacting to, I call it "The Toto Phenomenon," of which regular readers of Republicus--my friends and allies--know about.

To be continued...

For example, if

9:03 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Stanley,

The DU's Klavern is missing one of its' members. Please return ASAP.

5:20 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Check this out...what in the name of Swee' Jeebus is this poor, addled moron trying to say? The poor, defeated lunatics are sounding more incoherent every day:

"when the Left naked it's sneering claim, your host is unaware of what they are reacting to, but has learned that they are reacting to something. And when something--apparently random--calls your host's attention to something that just do happens to reveal precisely what the Left is angrily reacting to..."

12:17 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

See, the way it works, dumkopf, is that when you are willing to admit that 2 + 2 = 4, the truth is self evident and requires a simple sentence to explain it. When you want to tell us it equals five, however, then you need to write a ridiculous, overwrought pile of really bad prose to "explain" it. That seems to be the chronic disease this poor, pinheaded monkey suffers from. Mein gott...he is a walking, blowing bag of bad, right wing gas. The more he rationalizes, the more ridiculous his positions sound.

In other words, he's a fucking gold mine.

12:33 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Texas: "It's an epidemic here in Texas and Harris County -- people without health insurance. On Saturday, the uninsured lined up to get their needs met. More than 2,000 people came to Reliant Center to see doctors for free. Many of the people we talked to can't afford health insurance, especially in the rough economy."

12:44 PM  
Blogger John said...

Can you read? I explained the typos earlier (in a virtually typo-free explanation).

What I meant here i'd that everytime you make some kind of claim that reflects negatively on the right, odds are very good that you are vindivtively reacting to--and/or deflecting attention away from--your own convicted guilt on the same charge.

Usually, the countercharge is activated by an unconscious psychological defense mechanism of projection. Often it Is by conscious vindictiveness, but when that's the case, the unconscious psychological defense mechanism of overcompensatiom kicks in. The ridiculous hyperbolics is a dead giveaway (with the obligatory superlatives "very very!" and "most in history ever!").

The perfect example of that is the hysterical "Bush Lied!" and "Bush Is A Liar-Liar-Pants-On-Fire!" and "The Misleader!" and the "Liar-In-Chief!" and the "Lying Liar Who Tells Lies!" campaign when everyone who's got the number of you little snakes knows that it had nothing to do with the "Sixteen Words" about yellow cake (which were true anyway, reptile), but everything to do with the Impeachment of Bill Clinton for perjury.

So anyway, I assumed that your posted study about the alleged historical ignorance of Oklahomans (who, according to you, live in the reddest state, so therefore...) had something to do with a contemporaneous--if not preceding--study that basicaly concluded the same thing about the nation at large (i.e. A failure of the public school system to teach), putting the onus of culpability not on preponderance of GOP voters in a given locale, but the ubiquity of the brain-draining Kool Aid dispensed by the (liberal) public school system. Then you informed me (not that I should take your word for anything anymore, "Stanley") that the study targeting Oklahoma was carried out by a conservative group, which doesn't disqualify the cause and effect dynamic, anyway.

And it certainly can deflect attention away from the fact that our über-elite Best & Brightest genius of a president's historical savviness consists of thinking that there are 57 states, that slavery ended by "talking," that the Americans liberated Auschwitz, and that the Muslims were responsible for the Renaissance.

You're dismissed, "Stanley."

1:08 PM  
Blogger John said...

Correction: "And it certainly CAN'T distract attention away from..."

Texting these comments is obviously typo-friendly.

Anyway, as I said way, way up there just after "Stanley" made "his" debut, "he's" full of it.

Just recently he ran in here all excited about some bogus poll that claimed "over 50% of the American people wanted a public health option.". Bogus. In fact, the polls have been so steadfastly against the evil public option, that the congress decided put it out of its misery and killed it just today.

Now that's a death panel I can believe in!

Hahahahahahaha!

Even when they win, they lose.

How about the conceited buffoon Bill Clinton saying "Yeah, you bet, sure it is!" in answer to the question of whether Hillary's 1998 "Vast, Right Wing Conspiracy" was still alive and kicking or not.

I guess he forgot that Hillary said that to "explain" the rampant "lies" about her "husband" having sexual relations with that woman (Miss Lewinsky). But they weren't lies. Ergo, the explanation was.

But leave it to Democratic politicians to have such confidence blind devotion and sheer stupidity of their slavish constituents that they can say whatever they want with no fear of political repercussions from them.

...Unless, of course, he says anything critical about Obama, then he'll be called a racist again, so he's gotta play all nice-like and pretend that he and Miss Hillary
aren't waiting like snakes in the grass for the Obama's approvals to drop below 50%.

8:03 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

Many of the people we talked to can't afford health insurance, especially in the rough economy."

That's why Obama is going to FORCE them to buy health insurance. Either THAT, or pay a nice big fat fine... something they can't afford, either.

10:07 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

That's what I like about Obama. By forcing everyone to buy insurance, he puts all these do-gooder charity organizations out of business.

10:09 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Lying AGAIN...that's an idea Backass threw out there which was shot down. If they can't lie, they have nothing.

And they wonder why they're the laughing stock of the planet...this might help:

JK Rowling 'denied US top honour'
Last Updated: Tuesday, 29 September 2009, 14:09 GMT
- Search: JK Rowling honour

JK Rowling apparently missed out on a US honourJK Rowling was denied the US's highest civilian honour because members of the Bush administration believed Harry Potter "encouraged witchcraft", a new book claims.

Matt Latimer, a former speech writer for George W Bush, states in Speechless: Tales Of A White House Survivor that White House officials objected to the author's perceived promotion of sorcery in the series.

As a result her name was not included amongst those receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom, it is alleged.

(Who on earth would want a medal from that sick, little chimp, anyway?)

In Speechless, Latimer writes that "narrow thinking" led "people in the White House to actually object to giving the author JK Rowling a presidential medal because the Harry Potter books encourage witchcraft".

JK Rowling's alleged exclusion is not the first example of her writing coming into conflict with the American right.

In 2007, Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly hit out at the author for announcing that Harry Potter character Dumbledore was gay. He called her a "provocateur" adding that the outing of Dumbledore was part of a liberal "indoctrination" of children.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Where's the moron who keeps telling us that if we don't understand his schizo rantings we must lack reading comprehension?

Now, there's one funny freak. Of course, the more reading comprehension you have, the more you realize what a weirdo he is.

10:33 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

OLnce they sort through the shit storm of reicho lies, the public always chooses the left lane:

New poll finds that public support for health care reform has substantially increased since the summer.
During the summer, many on the right claimed that raucus meetings at town halls showed Americans had turned against health care reform. Politico reported, “Democrats lost the month of August — not just in the polls and at town hall events but also within their own caucus.” Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) said the GOP is “going to keep the nightmare going through the fall.” But today, the Kaiser Family Foundation released its latest poll of public opinion on health care reform that shows that voters are actually more enthusiastic about reforming our broken health care system than ever. The poll finds that 57 percent of Americans now find health care reform “more important than ever,” a marked increase since August

10:37 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

FJ, I noticed that Stanley didn't have anything to say about your comment on forced health insurance. My bet is he hasn't a clue what Obama's plans are for health care....either that or he doesn't care that people won't be able to afford the insurance.

11:42 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

They're ALL morons...did you read this?

FJ said...
That's what I like about Obama. By forcing everyone to buy insurance, he puts all these do-gooder charity organizations out of business.

10:09 AM


Stanley said...
Lying AGAIN...that's an idea Backass threw out there which was shot down. If they can't lie, they have nothing.

12:17 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Meanwhile...

Over 75 percent of respondents in The Washington Post/ABC poll support a public option for those who cannot get private policies.

Sooooo touching the way these morons like taking it up the ass from insurance companies... most of whom have a near monopoly in their respective regions. No wonder socialism is beginning a resurgence.

12:23 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

No wonder...I'd rather listen to any random ditzy bimbo on the street...for free:

Sarah Palin is not selling well on the lecture circuit, an industry insider told the New York Post.

"The big lecture buyers in the US are paralyzed with fear about booking her, basically because they think she is a blithering idiot," the source said. "They don't want to tick people off."

Palin's fee for a recent speech in Hong Kong was rumored to be in the low six figures.

2:47 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

So what part's the lie, Stanley? You mean to tell me that that Bozo who currently sends doctors to sports stadiums to provide free heath care to the uninsured is going to continue to do so once everyone in the country has insurance?

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! You really are an idiot.

3:44 PM  
Blogger John said...

"No wonder socialism is having a resurgence!"

lol

That's really cute, "Stanley". Why don't you come over here and sit on my lap and begin a REAL resurgence (if ya know what I mean).

Didn't Obama have to get on the phone and assure a private citizen "N-N-No, really, I'm not a socialist!"?

Yes, he did. Why? Because America is about winners and socialism is for losers, that's why.

5:02 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Hear the wingbat hearts breaking?

GDP revision shows recession winding down
Wednesday September 30, 2009

The US economy moved close to emerging from recession in the second quarter, according to revised data Wednesday showing a smaller-than-expected 0.7 percent pace of output decline.
The figure for gross domestic product (GDP) was better than last month's estimate of a 1.0 percent drop, and stronger than the average estimate of private economists calling for a 1.2 percent annualized rate of decline.
The report appeared to confirm that the world's biggest economy was emerging from its long recession and rebounding from a hefty 6.4 percent tumble in the first quarter of 2009.

6:59 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Yech!! Another GOP pervert. You are as sick as you are stupid.

7:01 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Capitalism carries a primitivistic concept of winning and losing...keeping score in the most vulgar way -- with money -- as though that were of prime importance. Socialism has a much more sophisticated concept of that. It is about co-operation in finding the ways in which true winning can be accomplished by as many as possible -- winning by contributing to the overall good of all in the myriad ways in which an advance and civilized people would do. That is why capitalism is so compelling for those who by definition have the simplest, most unevolved minds...conservatives, aka the backward, aka those who are fearful of change and movement...by definition losers at the very outset.

7:36 PM  
Blogger John said...

"The US economy appeared close to emerging from recession."

lol

Yes, and "economies under Democrats almost always do better!"

And "socialism appears to be beginning a resurgence"!

Anyway, sure, we'll bounce out of the recession. We were going to, anyway. Now it's going to take longer and when we bounce out, we'll probably bounce back in soon thereafter because of the conditions created by Obama that are inhospitable to a convalescing economy. The "cure" of printing money and running up a ten trillion dollar
debt over ten years is the kind of cure that kills the patient (proof of why we should never, ever put the federal government in charge of healthcare).

P.S. Welcome back, lana. Go ahead and make yourself comfortable. I'll take very good care of you. In fact, this could be a perfect opportunity to illustrate to you the folly of government run healthcare. First, let's pretend that I'm the government here, that I'm in control, have the last word on everything, and know what's best for you (i.e. Me). Now it's time to play doctor, and you're the patient. But you don't to play doctor with me. You just don't like me, for one, and that prerogative of yours should be enough of a reason to make me back off with no questions asked. But I don't let you. And I'm the only game in town now. You're mine. Now please get undressed and assume the position on the stirrups. Your examination is about to begin.

How do you like that so far?

9:51 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Quotes

"The feminist movement is the most dangerous, destructive force in our society today. I’m talking about drugs,
sex, illegitimacy, drop outs, poor grades, run away, suicide, you name it, every social ill comes out of the fatherless home."
-- Phyllis Schlafly


"Schlafly couldn’t be where she is right now without standing on the shoulders of countless feminists
who’ve made it possible for a woman to have a leadership role in society. Nice way to repay that sacrifice…"
-- raynman


"She may be on to something - how many fatherless homes have Gingrigh, Guiliani and Mark Sanford left in their wake?"
-- Dallas NE


I have a question:
If being gay is a choice, like Schlafly claims, why did her Rethug son choose that lifestyle?

9:53 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Sounds like another peckerless, little conservative geek wishing he could fuck something other than the Farmer guy.

10:01 PM  
Blogger John said...

If I'm a "peckerless geek," fathead, then you should have nothing to worry about ( least of all get catty over like an unfit, feckless, and effete delta male trying to cockblock his betters).

Besides, lana doesn't need you to size me up for her. She's already figured it out for herself (ass you know).

8:52 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

Capitalism carries a primitivistic concept of winning and losing...keeping score in the most vulgar way -- with money -- as though that were of prime importance.

Sure, why let the individuals directly involved in an exchange of labor determine the "WORTH" of anything based upon the current supply and market conditions of the moment when we can devise a system of exchange where intellectuals determe "comparable worths" and set the exchange rates based upon aesthetic or esoteric factors like the presence or absence of a vagina or melanin.

From each according to his ability and to each, according to his need...

After all, people who "can't" have much greater and immediate and important needs than those of people who "can". Just like the Bedoins of Saudi Arabia need oil MUCH more than people in Detroit...

9:25 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

I wonder why so many liberals preach the Church of Big Government. Could it be because the 1st Amendment prohibits the Government from establishing Churches.

Ever wonder why "separation of church and state" was such a big issue at the time of the founding?

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents..." --James Madison

9:43 AM  
Blogger John said...

Well said, fj. Of course the Left always go against the grain of the Constitution. That's why they hate it and why they're fundamentally un-American.

10:07 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Tell Your Friends!!

Lots of Free Screenings tonight of Michael Moore's new movie "Capitalism: A Love Story."

10:45 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Here's a clue, simpletons...look for this phrase..."...to provide for the general welfare..."

Btw, it's Bedouins...and a little thing like them OWNING the fucking oil shouldn't get in anyone's way.

Another btw: Your paranoid delusions are quite amusing...how many other names can you think of for Standaman?

10:50 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

In REALITY,a land never visited by wingdings, it's backweirdo rightists who love big gov. They like to snoop in the bedroom. They love censorship. They love a huge and intrusive military and police. The left is willing to use the people's arm...aka government, to do the people's work...as when the people defend themselves against the huge and exploitive powers of the corporate greedmeisters... when necessary. But these uses never even come up unless they are not being addressed by the private sector or if that sector is acting in predatory ways as is their unrelenting predilection. But that goes against the pinhead, parrot meme of the backward conservative, so they are unable to absorb the lesson.

10:59 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

The General Welfare clause is in the Preamble to the Constitution dip sh*t. The preamble isn't binding law. It's the reason for creating what follows. And as the Madison quote (and it's specific omission from what followed in the Constitution) proves, using constituents money to perform constitutionally unspecified acts of benevolence were not considered to be "in the general welfare" of the people.

a little thing like them OWNING the fucking oil shouldn't get in anyone's way.

Nobody owns ANYTHING that they can't keep others from taking from them. That's why the 2nd Amendment is so important. It keeps us from being "owned" by the government, as "progressives" would have us. Stanley wants to save money by investing in more "slave doctors" and save us from ourselves by letting "intellectuals" ration health care. He wants us to submit to a system devised by slave legislators.

Plato, "Laws"

ATHENIAN: And did you ever observe that there are two classes of patients in states, slaves and freemen; and the slave doctors run about and cure the slaves, or wait for them in the dispensaries—practitioners of this sort never talk to their patients individually, or let them talk about their own individual complaints? The slave doctor prescribes what mere experience suggests, as if he had exact knowledge; and when he has given his orders, like a tyrant, he rushes off with equal assurance to some other servant who is ill; and so he relieves the master of the house of the care of his invalid slaves. But the other doctor, who is a freeman, attends and practices upon freemen; and he carries his enquiries far back, and goes into the nature of the disorder; he enters into discourse with the patient and with his friends, and is at once getting information from the sick man, and also instructing him as far as he is able, and he will not prescribe for him until he has first convinced him; at last, when he has brought the patient more and more under his persuasive influences and set him on the road to health, he attempts to effect a cure. Now which is the better way of proceeding in a physician and in a trainer? Is he the better who accomplishes his ends in a double way, or he who works in one way, and that the ruder and inferior?

CLEINIAS: I should say, Stranger, that the double way is far better.

ATHENIAN: Should you like to see an example of the double and single method in legislation?

CLEINIAS: Certainly I should.


Preambles form the basis of the "double method", dufus. It's the double-entry boook-keeping method of the legal profession that prevents idiots like you from trying to redefine terms like "the general welfare".

11:45 AM  
Blogger FJ said...

Thank G_d we conservatives will never have to visit that dystopic vision of slavery that Stanley paints as the world of REALITY!

12:00 PM  
Blogger John said...

Ouch. I'm glad fj's on my side.

6:24 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

You mean you're glad that with him by your side (or under you) you'll never have to worry about finding yourself downwind of him?

The preamble statement proves INTENT, birdbrain. The specifics come later as the document evolves...another concept you have no chance of understanding...or of taking part in.

Is this another one of those dime-a-dozen, mass produced, pretentious fools who can't keep from using utterly irrelevant quotes from people they have no chance of ever understanding?

Why are there so many of those stereotypical, braying jackasses on the right...compensation for innate stupidity?

Well, I've got to toke up and kick back for a little XXX pornography.

6:44 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

...using utterly irrelevant quotes from people they have no chance of ever understanding?

Well we agree about one thing, it's beyond YOUR understanding. But then it appears that there's little that isn't.

7:21 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

The Pigs Come Back to the Trough


The Return of the Repressed

It should come as no surprise that with the election of Barack Obama, the right has returned to a politics of racial resentment.

Michelle Goldberg | September 15, 2009






(AP Photo)


Now that popular conservatism has given itself over so avidly to racial resentment, it's curious to remember how hard the right once tried to scrub itself of the lingering taint of prejudice. Indeed, for a decade and a half the Christian right -- until recently the most powerful and visible grassroots conservative movement -- struggled mightily to escape its own bigoted history. In his 1996 book Active Faith, Ralph Reed acknowledged that Christian conservatives had been on the wrong side of the civil rights movement. "The white evangelical church carries a shameful legacy of racism and the historical baggage of indifference to the most central struggle for social justice in this century, a legacy that is only now being wiped clean by the sanctifying work of repentance and racial reconciliation," wrote Reed.
"Racial reconciliation" became a kind of buzz phrase. The idea animated Promise Keepers meetings. "Racism is an insidious monster," Bill McCartney, the group's founder, said at a 39,000-man Atlanta rally. "You can't say you love God and not love your brother." The Traditional Values Coalition distributed a video called "Gay Rights, Special Rights" to black churches; it criticized the gay rights movement for co-opting the noble legacy of the civil rights struggle.

Throughout the Bush years, homophobia and professions of anti-racism were twinned in a weird way, as if the latter proved that the right wasn't simply still skulking around history's dark side. At a deeply surreal 2006 event at the Greater Exodus Baptist Church, an African American church in downtown Philadelphia, leaders of the religious right invoked Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks on behalf of gay marriage bans and Bush's judicial nominees. At the end of the evening, several dozen clergymen, black and white, joined hands in prayer at the front of the room. "Black Americans, white Americans," said a beaming Tony Perkins, leader of the Family Research Council. "Christians, standing together." The whole premise of compassionate conservatism -- which shoveled taxpayer money towards administration-friendly churches like Greater Exodus Baptist -- was that the right cared as deeply as the left about issues like inner city poverty.

What a difference an election makes. Even if you believed that compassionate conservatism was always a bit of a con, it's amazing to see how quickly it has vanished, and how fast an older style of reaction, one more explicitly rooted in racial grievance, has reasserted itself.

Today's grassroots right is by all appearances as socially conservative as ever, but its tone and its rhetoric are profoundly different than they were even a year ago. For the last 15 years, the right-wing populism has been substantially electrified by sexual anxiety. Now it's charged with racial anxiety. By all accounts, there were more confederate flags than crosses at last weekend's anti-Obama rally in Washington, DC. Glenn Beck has become a far more influential figure on the right than, say, James Dobson, and he's much more interested in race than in sexual deviancy. For the first time in at least a decade, middle class whites have been galvanized by the fear that their taxes are benefiting lazy, shiftless others. The messianic, imperialistic, hubristic side of the right has gone into retreat, and a cramped, mean and paranoid style has come to the fore.

1:17 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

To some extent, a newfound suspicion of government was probably inevitable as soon as Democrats took power. At the same time, with the implosion of the Christian right's leadership and the last year's cornucopia of GOP sex scandals, the party needed to take a break from incessant moralizing, and required a new ideology to take the place of family values cant. The belief system analysts sometimes call "producerism" served nicely. Producerism sees society as divided between productive workers -- laborers, small businessmen and the like -- and the parasites who live off them. Those parasites exist at both the top and the bottom of the social hierarchy -- they are both financiers and welfare bums -- and their larceny is enabled by the government they control.

Producerism has often been a trope of right-wing movements, especially during times of economic distress, when many people sense they're getting screwed. Its racist (and often anti-Semitic) potential is obvious, so it gels well with the climate of Dixiecrat racial angst occasioned by the election of our first black president. The result is the return of the repressed.

It's not, after all, as if the Christian right was something completely removed from the old racist right -- rather, as Reed acknowledged all those years ago, they were initially deeply intertwined. The Columbia historian Randall Balmer has shown that Christian conservatives were not, contrary to their own mythology, initially mobilized by their outrage at Roe vs. Wade. Rather, what spurred them into action was the IRS's attempt to revoke the tax-exempt status of whites only Christian schools, schools that had been created specifically to evade desegregation.

The Christian right was always rooted in an older style of reactionary politics. Before he became a political organizer himself, Falwell -- who ran one of those Christian segregation academies -- attacked Martin Luther King Jr. for his political activism. ("Preachers are not called to be politicians, but to be soul winners," he said.) Before Tony Perkins was basking in homophobic interracial amity, he paid Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list. In 2004, David Barton, then the vice president of the Texas GOP, spoke at an event featuring white preachers and ministry workers dropping to their knees before their black brethren to plead for forgiveness. Thirteen years earlier, Barton had twice been a featured speaker at meetings of the Christian Identity movement, which preaches that blacks are sub-human "mud people." One could go on and on.

As racism grew politically unacceptable, the Christian right was able to channel resentment over the decline of white male privilege into a Kulterkampf directed at more acceptable enemies, like gays and lesbians. The movement borrowed heavily from Catholic theology and convinced itself that it was in a righteous struggle against a culture of death, not a culture of diversity. Now the mask is off. One wonders if fifteen years from now, they'll bother apologizing all over again.

1:17 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

It's pretty obvious who's hung up on race... and it's not the conservative movement, as comments to this blog prove daily.

2:32 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Tom Race Quotes

"No, I don’t think."
-- Michael Tom Steele, when asked if the Facebook poll on the question
"Should Obama be killed?" was spawned by racism,

Of course not.
When they say, "I want that nigger dead," that's no indication of racism. Not at all.


There are passions that run deep and long on both sides of the aisle."
-- Michael Tom Steele, on reports that threats against Obama are up 400 percent.

2:48 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

More Quotes From the Flake Party Which Hates Even its Own Values:

A traditional marriage is between a man, a woman, and his mistress...or sometimes with a choir boy, an old college room mate, or with his mule, or a reeeally ripe watermelon.

Mark Sanford, family values Republican Governor who hates family values.

2:52 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

A picture says a thousand words.

3:49 PM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Quotes

"I hope that female suffrage will be repealed.
If it were to be, I wouldn’t lose a minute’s sleep."
-- John Derbyshire, who also said there's a case to be made for repealing the 1964 Civil Rights Act,



Quotes

"The big lecture buyers in the US are paralyzed with fear about booking her, basically because
they think she is a blithering idiot. Palin is so uninteresting to so many groups - unless they are
interested in moose hunting. What does she have to say? She can't even describe what she reads."
-- An industry expert, on why Palin had to go to China to find a speaking gig,

5:56 PM  
Blogger FJ said...

"These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control." --Michael Moore

I agree, Michael.

7:20 PM  
Blogger John said...

I guess the Olympic Commitee is racist, too. So's the umemployment rate. TGIF!

7:53 PM  
Blogger John said...

I wonder if any of Letterman's "female staffers" were close to the age of Bristol Palin?

I'm surprised no one has asked that.

The stanleys must be mortified. The week ended very, very badly for them.

8:58 AM  
Blogger John said...

Note:

Republicus has identified a lefty m.o. and elaborated on it several times in this very commentary section.

The stanleys could not comprehend the analysis and ridiculed it--but then mindlesssly confirmed it a few comments later, completely unaware that they were doing so.

To recap, whenever a lefty/leftism (A) is charged with negative quality (X), the story is downplayed or dismissed and ignored while a right-winger (B) implicated in (X) is dredged up and vociferously magnified out of unconscious projection or conscious vindictiveness.

It should be added that the quality of (X) in (A) is not the same as it is in (B), so the charge by (A) of hypocrisy to justify the counterattack on (B) is inapplicable.

Anyway, the process repeated itself precisely as I outlined a few comments later:

Out of the blue, with no explanation or context whatsoever to justify the apparently spontaneous blurt, one of the stanleys posted a comment ridiculing Mark "Family Values" Sanford.

That's old news. What gives?

It is blurted out precisely to blunt or deflect attention away from dirty old man David Lecherman's headlining sleaze.

9:30 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Oh, yeah...we're really worried about Letterman's image...duh.I don't care if he fucks everything from Bangor to Baja, and neither does anyone else.

In fact I applaud it, and have put forward his name for the coveted Medallion de Virilite', offered each year by the French Academie.

It's most illustrious recipient, after Casanova, of course, is Bill 'Bubba' Clinton.

Has anyone ever heard him pompously pontificating family val-ewes garbage? Noooooo...see, pinhead...it's the hypocrisy...not the humpink.


Go Dave...

Palin: An American Laughingstock

"People in Alaska are looking forward to Sarah Palin's memoir. They're already calling it 'The Book to Nowhere.'"
--David Letterman

"They say she finished the book ahead of schedule so they moved the release date up to November 17th.
So, turns out she can finish something."
--Jimmy Kimmel

"It's a big, huge book. But when you go into the store, you can use that big book to step up
so you can reach a better book."
--David Letterman

"But the book has got a lot of beautiful pictures of Russia that she took from her front porch."
--David Letterman

11:43 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Brilliant Quote of the Day:

"Obama believes the Republican Party is a party when in fact it’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth,
based on hatred - religious hatred, racial hatred. When you foreigners hear the word 'conservative'
you think of kindly old men hunting foxes. They’re not, they’re fascists."
-- Gore Vidal

11:44 AM  
Blogger Stanley said...

Why do these pathetic midgets have to be told about the hypocrisy thing over and over and over. Even these fools are not that stupid, though they are close to it.

It's because they don't want to undertand it, and they have the lack of integrity -- in spade -- to believe whatever makes them comfy in their shrivelled skins.

They'd have no ammo to use if they had to acknowledge the literally insane pious 'moral' rantings of their sicko leadership...which almost ALWAYS ends in their being caught en flagrante with a goat or small child.

11:51 AM  
Blogger Alice Gorable said...

Top 10 reasons why David Letterman remains a adulterous Democratic sycophant:

10.) I learned everything I needed to know from Governor Eliot Spitzer.

9.) If you met my wife, you'd be fooling around with staffers, too.

8.) I was just doing research for a documentary about Bill Clinton.

7.) But they were the size of canned hams!

6.) You probably didn't realize that smarmy is an aphrodisiac.

5.) There is no truth to the rumor that I had my staffers assume that "slutty flight attendant look."

4.) It wasn't really me, it was my wily alter-ego, Shag-boy.

3.) Have you seen the ratings Conan has been getting?

2.) It's not like I'm Roman Polanski or something.

And the number one excuse for David Letterman's sycophantic adulterous behavior:

It might have been adultery, but it wasn't adultery-adultery.

1:11 PM  

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