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Location: Arlington, Virginia, United States

Tuesday, December 30, 2008

The Year In Review (by Uncle Jay)

Have A Happy New Year.


Blogger Veronica said...

I Like it, :) Chan

7:26 AM  
Blogger John said...

I'm glad. :)

11:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, cute...but little compensation for our position in the toilet.

8:02 PM  
Blogger John said...

I beg your pardon. My position is not "in the toilet."

12:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are now two kinds of Republicans...those of us who know we're in the toilet and who would like to take REALISTIC measures to get out...and those of you who have your head up your ass and are worse than worthless to rebuilding the party.

You -- and your contributors -- are obviously among the latter.

We can be a party of southern, white, religious nuts and scattered homophobes and become extinct, or we can enter the 21st century and become relevant again.

11:22 AM  
Blogger nanc said...

one thing is for certain, just when you believe it cannot get any worse...oh nevermind!


are you out on parole again?


11:23 AM  
Blogger John said...

You sound like a liberal Democrat to me, anon.

In case you haven't noticed, the Democrats came into power by positioning themselves as "The True" conservative/Republicans--e.g. fiscally responsible, heterosexually monogamous, even Bible-quoting--and used the exceptional poster-boys for GOP bad behavior and the soured economy to tar the party as hypocritical, incompetent phonies while co-opting the positions.

(The phonies in the party are known as RINOs--i.e. Republicans-In-Name-Only, and are at war with the positions of their own party and too often fraternize with--or sound like--the opposition, and are used by them as the proverbial useful idiots).

So how can "our" positions be in the toilet" if the jackasses won by pulling the chair out from under us and then sitting in it themselves?

Conservatism won. The liberals don't even use the word "liberal" anymore to describe themselves (except for the loud-and-proud blogging losers of the base), opting instead for "progressive" and progressively sounding more and more like Reagan and even W. each day.

Of course, that makes them the real phonies.

They also won by uniting, as a party, an exemplar also learned from the Republicans and the record-setting '04 turnout (broken by the one this time around).

Meanwhile, there's elements on the Right who spend more time griping and sniping at their own instead of the opposition, weakening the party in the process (RINOs, essentially).

I think you know who I'm talking about, anon (if that's your REAL name).

Happy New Year, Nanc. :)

Yeah, I got time off for good behavior. ;)

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Duh, gee, it sounds like you could have been a strong Obama supporter. And I see you debate by simply lying. Obama was the most liberal Senator in Congress and his rep as such was loudly heralded by our side and yet he won a large victory. He ran on such things as universal health care, environmentalism, a huge fiscal stimulus package,fighting global warming, union support, more regulation of Wall St.and ending the war in Iraq. You are a perfect example of the head up the ass Republican who will keep us in the minority forever. Have you ever honestly looked at all the huge names in the GOP who say we are indeed in the toilet?

As for me, I'm all in favor of leaving you there while the rest of us climb out. It's fools like you who got us there in the first place with your uncritical support of the very unconservative bunch who got us into that nasty little swimming hole. Morons like you are so used to the shit, you don't even know how bad off we are...and getting worse unless we revitalize the conservative brand as the demographics show.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

goddamn rinos...Bush pollster and strategist Matthew Dowd: "Katrina to me was the tipping point. The president broke his bond with the public. Once that bond was broken, he no longer had the capacity to talk to the American public. State of the Union addresses? It didn't matter. Legislative initiatives? It didn't matter. P.R.? It didn't matter. Travel? It didn't matter."

White House communications director Dan Bartlett: "Politically, it was the final nail in the coffin."

5:50 PM  
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12:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's to the dead reich.

11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this was a nice summation of the year in conservatism...

The Top Dozen Insights of Conservatives, 2008

It was a brutal year for the conservative movement, which at long last came crashing down after dominating American politics for nearly 30 years. One small consolation for at least some leading thinkers on the right is that they began to demonstrate perceptiveness that by and large eluded them in preceding years. Here are the top twelve insights of prominent conservatives in 2008:

P.J. O' Rourke, The Weekly Standard

An entire generation has been born, grown up, and had families of its own since Ronald Reagan was elected. And where is the world we promised these children of the Conservative Age? Where is this land of freedom and responsibility, knowledge, opportunity, accomplishment, honor, truth, trust, and one boring hour each week spent in itchy clothes at church, synagogue, or mosque? It lies in ruins at our feet, as well it might, since we ourselves kicked the shining city upon a hill into dust and rubble.


David Brooks, The New York Times

Now it's just a circular firing squad with everybody attacking each other and no coherent belief system, no leaders. You got half the party waiting for Sarah Palin to come rescue them. The other half waiting for Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana governor, to come rescue them. But no set of beliefs, really a decayed conservative infrastructure. It's just a world of pain.


Matthew Continetti, The Weekly Standard

The GOP is shell-shocked from last month's election results. The gains the party made in the years since the 1994 Republican revolution have been erased. Republicans are without a clear agenda. People say that Republicans don't have any ideas, but that isn't entirely true. They have plenty of ideas--but too many of them are about which part of their coalition is to blame for their current misfortunes.
This sort of squabbling is less than useless. It's inward-looking, woolly-headed, and only furthers the perception that the GOP is out of touch. Unfortunately, when Republicans have tried to be in touch, they've been tempted to be irresponsible. In September, more than a few were ready to risk the global banking system's collapse in the hopes that they could ride anti-Wall Street populism to victory.


Alan Greenspan, former Federal Reserve chairman

I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organizations, specifically banks and others, were such that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms.


Andrew Sullivan, The Atlantic

The crisis is at two levels - the dreadful incompetence and incoherence of the Bush-Cheney administration, which has poisoned the Republican brand for more than one generation, and the emergence of inherent flaws in several strains of conservative thought.
The banking crisis is so close to us and so unresolved it's hard to see it in context, but I fear that Greenspan is right: it's a huge flaw that cannot be explained away by government. The limits of hard power are, in fact, perfectly in line with conservatism's deeper insights into human affairs, with Bush and Cheney acting more as over-reaching utopians than conservative statesmen. And the social conservatism problem has been a function of Christianism: an inability to shape society as it is because their theological doctrine demands adherence to eternal dogma not development of pragmatic policy. So we have their rigid refusal to countenance any legal abortion or any civil recognition of gay couples.

Grappling with any one of these problems would be serious enough. Untangling all three at once? The GOP had better hope Obama really screws up.


Rod Dreher, Beliefnet

There is a conservative Establishment -- a political establishment, yes, but also a think-tank establishment and an opinion-leader establishment -- that has become ossified in its thinking and, over time, more interested in policing its heretics than in thinking creatively about conservatism and its application to the challenges facing our nation and our culture at this particular time. That establishment is dying.


Ross Douthat, The Atlantic

Conservatism in the United States faces a series of extremely knotty problems at the moment. How do you restrain the welfare state at a time when the entitlements we have are broadly popular, and yet their design puts them on a glide path to insolvency? How do you respond to the socioeconomic trends - wage stagnation, social immobility, rising health care costs, family breakdown, and so forth - that are slowly undermining support for the Reaganite model of low-tax capitalism? How do you sell socially-conservative ideas to a moderate middle that often perceives social conservatism as intolerant? How do you transform an increasingly white party with a history of benefiting from racially-charged issues into a party that can win majorities in an increasingly multiracial America? etc.
Watching the McCain campaign, you'd barely even know that these problems exist, let alone that conservatives have any idea what to do about them.


Kathleen Parker, syndicated columnist

The movement created by that superelite, but never elitist, William F. Buckley Jr. was handed over to Joe Six-Pack. Know-nothingness was no longer a stigma, but a badge of honor. The Republican Party's Baghdad Bobism with regard to Palin, a denial so pernicious that party operatives were willing to let her sit a heartbeat away from the presidency in a time of war and financial collapse, revealed what really ails the party. The 'P Factor' isn't a single person but a sickness that will have to be acknowledged and cured--Republicans will be reciting their newly tailored principles only to themselves.


David Frum, American Enterprise Institute

Sarah Palin symbolizes a party that has decided that we just don't care about making the government work anymore.


Colin Powell, former Secretary of State

Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather that our better instincts?


Rich Lowry, The National Review

Tuesday's Republican debacle was, as the social scientists say, 'over-determined.' It had many causes. Was it brought on by congressional corruption, Bush administration incompetence, intellectual exhaustion or John McCain's failings as a candidate? All of the above -- and then some....
One temptation will be to say that if only Republicans had stayed truer to the faith, especially on fiscal discipline, none of this would have happened. Earmarks unquestionably contributed to the culture of corruption that has so bedeviled Republicans in recent years. But fighting them became an overriding obsession of some conservatives and of McCain, as if opposing earmarks alone -- 1 percent of federal spending -- would constitute a winning economic agenda.


William Kristol, The Weekly Standard and The New York Times

I can't help but admire some of my fellow conservatives' loyalty to the small-government cause. It reminds me of the nobility of Tennyson's Light Brigade, as it charges into battle: 'Theirs but to do and die.' Maybe it would be better, though, first to reason why.

11:24 AM  
Blogger John said...

Happy New Year!

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NY Times: GOP digging a deeper hole for themselves with 'racebaiting'

The controversy over would-be Republican National Committee chairman Chip Saltsman's distribution of a song that many find racially offensive has been going on since Christmas, with much of the commentary focusing on whether it would help or hurt his candidacy. Now the editorial board of the New York Times has weighed in to describe it frankly as race-baiting.

Under the title, "Talk About Out of Touch," the Times editorialist writes, "The Republican Party paid a steep price for race-baiting in the presidential campaign. ... We thought after all that — and, oh yes, losing the election — everyone in the Republican Party leadership would have figured out that race-baiting alienates young, minority and all reasonable voters. Clearly, not everyone has."

The Times goes on to note that the distribution of the song by Saltsman, who served as Mike Huckabee's campaign manager during last spring's Republican primaries, "has split the Republican leadership. One faction thinks the parody is just fine and seems prepared to defend it to the death. The other is condemning it and shuddering at its political consequences."

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has blasted Saltsman, saying, "This is so inappropriate that it should disqualify any Republican National Committee candidate who would use it."

The Times concludes that Saltsman "could still be vaulted into the chairman’s seat by hard-core committee members who resent the explosion of criticism and have learned nothing from the last election. Maybe they like the hole their party is standing in and want to dig it even deeper. That’s their right, but it does the country no good."

That last statement reminds me of a certain, slow learner blogger I could name. This type of "party super patriot" is really the biggest traitor around.

2:53 PM  
Blogger John said...

"Duh, gee, it sounds like you could have been a strong Obama supporter."

No it doesn't.

"And I see you debate by simply lying."

No I don't.

"Obama was the most liberal Senator in Congress and his rep as such was loudly heralded by our side and yet he won a large victory."

After he flip-flopped--and flip-flops some more after winning-- on handguns, coal and nuclear power, FISA, NAFTA, the Patriot Act, unilaterally invading sovereign countries, and even gay marriage, and denouncing the liberal radicals he was associated with for 20 years.more

He's keeping Bush's war czar Bob Gates on, there's no more talk of "ending the war," and will have Evangelist Rick Warren conducting an invocation at the inaugural.

Obviously, Obama is making the effort to prove that he's not the radical liberal many accused him of being during the campaign (when he can be whatever he wants now that he's elected), and, indeed, is willing to anger the very liberals who were his staunchest supporters in the process.

"You are a perfect example of the head up the ass Republican who will keep us in the minority forever."

I don't think you've been paying attention. Furthermore, I think you're a phony Republican. Not even a RINO--who carries a card--but a registered Democrat and a typical, sniveling liberal who pretends to be a Republican for the sake of deviousness.

"Have you ever honestly looked at all the huge names in the GOP who say we are indeed in the toilet?"

Have you?

"As for me, I'm all in favor of leaving you there while the rest of us climb out."

To where? Another party? Go for it.

"It's fools like you who got us there in the first place with your uncritical support of the very unconservative bunch who got us into that nasty little swimming hole."

It's traitors like you--if you are indeed a Republican and not a liar--who let the Left get away with slanderous and libelous lies and hysterical propaganda about "this bunch" and are now even chiming in with them.

So climb out and gtfo.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So FJ says Happy New year {except for blacks?]!

Guess that makes him a "classical liberal"


8:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and someone who says, "Happy New Year" [except for Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, and black Republicans] a "progressive" liberal.


6:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and everyone who's not obsessed with magical negroes like Barack, is a racist!


7:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No wonder the liberals hate this song, FJ, have you seen the lyrics?

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

Some say Barack’s “articulate”
And bright and new and “clean.”
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper’s dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don’t be fooled!
Don’t vote the Magic Negro in Cause he’s not from the hood.

10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only a fool like this "John" could actually believe there are no Republicans who know the party is in THE TOILET. It's all they're talking about. And the demographics for the future with latinos and the young along with every other minority and sub group turning away from the right is truly frightening for reality based thinkers...the upside being that many of us are ready and excited about meeting the challenge while cowards like this guy just want to rationalize. That's the kind of thinking they've had to use to defend the administration rather than the principles these last few years.

And look at that insane, defensive screed!!!...migod the poor dufus can't even begin to enter the first stages of realization.

Somebody send the poor, weak ostrich a list of all the Republicans who do get it...maybe he'll be able to take a tiny step toward reality. I'm not wasting further time on him as I'm cruising the blogs with several others looking for reality based people who want to face the challenge of transforming the party into a conservative movement suitable for the twenty first century. We really need to jettison dicks like this as if it were garbage weighing us down.

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and please keep up the magic negro's how we know which garbage to jettison.

Have you heard what the brightest leaders of the party have had to say about that? Talk about giving ammo to the opposition. Migod, what a backwater.

We need some air and won't be back to this stifling little pit of weakness and irrelevancy.

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...there's the door, Anton. Don't let it hit you on the ass on the way out!

12:40 PM  
Anonymous GOP in the Toilet Series said...

glad to oblige...there are so many:

P.J. O' Rourke, The Weekly Standard

An entire generation has been born, grown up, and had families of its own since Ronald Reagan was elected. And where is the world we promised these children of the Conservative Age? Where is this land of freedom and responsibility, knowledge, opportunity, accomplishment, honor, truth, trust, and one boring hour each week spent in itchy clothes at church, synagogue, or mosque? It lies in ruins at our feet, as well it might, since we ourselves kicked the shining city upon a hill into dust and rubble.

1:09 PM  
Blogger John said...

"...the upside being that many of us are ready and excited about meeting the challenge..."

Good for you. Sounds like you changed your tune from Gloom & Doom.

Go back and read the obituaries for the Democratic Party after Reagan won in a landlside in '84, Bush rolled Dukakis in '88, and after Bush steamrolled the Democrats through the entire first term.

They're strikingly similar to the lamentations--if not schadenfreud--going up for the GOP.

Then, just as Bush's second term started, with surplus political capital, Bush announced "I intend to spend it," rolled up his sleeves, grabbed the Third Rail, and began to shake it.

That's when his stellar polls began to drop, in tandem with a massive, coordinated, propaganda attack by the far left and even Lyndon Larouche (who was hired by the Democrats to attack Bush's privatization of Social Security proposal--the Third Rail).

Then there was the Act of God--Hurricane Katrina--which exposed the incompetence and decrepitness of the liberal government in New Orleans, but of course necessitated screaming that much louder that it was Bush & Brownie's fault in order to shout over the fact that the federal government already gave whatever monies New Orleans requested for levvy maintenance.

By that point, however, the propaganda attack was throwing the kitchen sink at Bush, and you were just as likely to read that the levvies were wired to collapse by a government conspiracy to wipe out the ghettos (and the minorities therein) for the sake of a gentrification agenda as you were to read that Bush said "Heckuva job, Brownie"--with little mention of the incompentence and decrepitness of state (D) and local (D) governments.

And so forth for the remainibng second term.

And it seems to me that you bought the mendaceous baloney that the Bush years have been "unprecedented disasters."

Anyway, at this point in time, the Left has cried "Wolf" way too often, and hailed a messiah who is only human, and, historically, the nation is way overdue for a one-termer, so I think '12 will be a ballgame.

...Although I do have a Republican/conservative friend who thinks that a second term for Barack is practically guaranteed, as that he is well positioned--under the dynamic circumstances, both globally and domestically--to go up, and if he fails to rise to challenges, they can blame his predecessor, "The Worst President In History."

Still, we did have a mediocre candidate running against a charismatic superstar (who I prefer over the Clintons, anyway)--This time.

But we have our own new generation of Republican future heavyweights who will be tanned, rested, and ready for '12 and/or '16.

Don't get too caught up in transient faddishness--which the Left thrives on, but instead spend your time correcting the record. The aggressive tarring of Bush was a strategic endeavor to get themselves back in power. Bush made plenty of mistakes, and so deserved some pasting, but does not come close to the caricatured effigy torched by the evil Left. They pulled the same stunts on Reagan/Bush '41 and got in another JFK Second Coming with Clinton in '92, and they rolled out the same doppelganger with Obama (though, again, it's not fair comparing Obama to Clinton, though it's still too early to make that verdict).

The Republican critics of Bush are not gospel assessments, Authoritative, Final Verdicts of sorts, as you seem to peddle. They are the opinions from right-wingers of various factions within the party, opportunists of dubious integrity and/or clarity, and, yes, RINOs of suspect loyalty.

1:11 PM  
Anonymous d. simes said...

I think he's gohn john...just us victorious liberals enjoying the GOP cat fight and rubbing your shit sniffing little nose in the GOP obits and post mortems.

Here's a clue, doggy can rebuild the Greasy Old Potty by moving sharply to the LEFT.

It's a win win for us no matter what you do.

1:14 PM  
Blogger John said...

"glad to oblige...there are so many..."

What, you're still here? You announced that you were leaving, like, three times already.

You're like a peevish girlfriend.

Anyway, wiith your ready supply of anti-Bush cut-&-paste "information," your true party affiliation is becoming more and more apparent.

(your catty, hissing, mean-spirited temperament is actually a dead giveaway.)

1:16 PM  
Blogger John said...

Simian. It was you the whole time, monkey-boy. You fake Republicans are as easy to see through as the phony soldiers are.

1:17 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Care to hear a comment from your libertarian friend?

I do think that the Republicans got themselves into a can of worms by supporting a Presidential candidate that was so far into the middle of the road that he met on-coming traffic. I do not know, or care, who this "anon" is, but he/she does not sound like a republican to me at all. Notwithstanding, I do think that if the Party wishes to get back into favor with a majority, they are going to have be real about limiting the size of government and being true fiscal conservatives.

My experience in the last race was that I garnered a critical number of votes in this district simply by voicing a desire to radically re-structure how the State of Texas spends it's taxpayer dollars and how it collects those dollars. I was not alone. The LP grew faster in the last two years than it ever has before, and had the largest number of seats in contention than it ever has before, and it had a lot to do with disaffected Republicans.

Here, at least, my view is that if the RP wants to re-gain those voters from the LP, all it really has to do is follow up on promises of limited government. In other words, return to the Reagan ideals and show that they mean it. Otherwise, they seem to resemble wishy-washy Democrats more than they do their own platform.

1:26 PM  
Anonymous dsimes said... PJ ORourke is a liberal democrat. what an easy pack of cunts. No, I was not the pissed off GOP. How far in denial would you have to be to think there aren't zillions like him out there?

1:46 PM  
Anonymous ds said...

Hey PhonyAss...just how bad did you looooooz that election?

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOP Analyst:

"The California Republican Party Is Dead’
Dec. 29, 2008

More evidence that Californians are no longer buying what Republicans are selling:

“The California Republican Party is dead,” election analyst Tony Quinn, himself a Republican, wrote last week on Fox & Hounds Daily, a political blog. “Call the undertaker, haul away the corpse.”

Starkest of all was McCain’s loss to Barack Obama in the presidential contest last month by a staggering 3.3 million votes — or a margin of 61 percent to 37 percent. Since 1900, the only Republican nominee for the White House to be trounced by a wider gap in California was Alf Landon, President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s challenger in 1936.

Also alarming for conservatives is the hemorrhaging of Republicans from the state’s voter rolls, even in the party’s longtime strongholds. When California’s election map was last adjusted in 2002, Republicans made up more than half of the voters in 11 of the state’s 173 congressional or legislative districts, and Democrats held 66. Now, Republicans constitute a majority in zero, and Democrats hold 57.

Here is Quinn’s postmortem:

Republicans have spent years in denial while suburb after suburb has gone Democratic, hallucinating that “proud pro-life conservatives” can still win in California. Voters just turned down parental consent for abortion for the third time; how many times do Republicans need to be told this is a pro-choice state. Their social issue stands have destroyed the GOP in California’s suburbs…

But it is their xenophobic attitude toward Latinos, that dates all the way back to Gov. Pete Wilson and Proposition 187, that has done the most to sink the GOP. Minority owned small businesses are the fastest growing. Asians and Latinos are moving into the suburbs. Virtually every district Republicans have lost over the past 20 years shows Latino suburban and middle class growth.

Republicans even lost ground in Sacramento, where Democrats added one seat in the Senate and two in the Assembly to their majorities.

Despite the fact that the most expensive anti-gay campaign ever — $40 million — could not turn out their voters.

It won’t be anytime soon, says Tony Quinn, because the party’s members are literally dying off. “At 31.3 percent of registered voters,” he writes, “California Republicans are at the lowest point in the history of the state. And they will go lower, as elderly white voters pass on. Sometime in the next decade, [registered independents] will pass Republicans.”

2:11 PM  
Anonymous ds said...

Lol...and they say we don't have any third parties.

The GOP will soon be the third party in Cali and everywhere else except the psycho-racist south...which they can have.

We need to warehouse our morons somewhere.

2:15 PM  
Blogger John said...

You better shaddup Simian before I obliterate your existence.

Happy New Year, James.

2:18 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...


They just do not know how to speak like adults, do they?

Like I even care.

I stand by my observations in the real world. Frankly, "psycho-racist south"?? Seriously, who throws a shoe? DS, did you even understand my comments? I reckon you did not, but I am used to that.

By the way, do you like being warehoused in a standard warehouse? We could provide some paint for you to dress the place up if you like.

3:22 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Oh, and yes.

Happy New Year to you and to yours!

May the wind be to your back, and the road rise to your feet.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous gyrlie said...

Lol...I guess if you paste a GOP's statement that means he didn't really say it. Here's some more pain for them:

David Brooks, The New York Times

Now it's just a circular firing squad with everybody attacking each other and no coherent belief system, no leaders. You got half the party waiting for Sarah Palin to come rescue them. The other half waiting for Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana governor, to come rescue them. But no set of beliefs, really a decayed conservative infrastructure. It's just a world of pain.

Hahahaha...sounds like the little mini-spat going on on this pathetic blog.

3:40 PM  
Anonymous gyrlie said...

God these dorks are stupid..."return to the reagan ideals"

Biggest deficits in history to that date...huge increase in the federal govt...and this moron thinks that was a true conserv

Your party has always been a joke and a lie...Raygun, Nixon or Bush.

3:44 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Hey "Girlie-Simian,"

Life lesson from someone who actually lived through all of that:

Reagan DID lose the bid to close down the Dept of Education, and he/we regretted that. So it did come with an increase in government size because of that ripe bastard Carter.

You are forgetting that by lowering taxes Reagan increased the federal revenue by huge percentages. Oh, yea, also, one cannot forget the genius that was "Tip" O'Neal and his timeless efforts to maintain federal spending regardless of the actual cost.

I also remember that inflation rates after Reagan were hugely different than the 22% we lived in during the late 70's and early 80's. Tippy and his ilk tried hard to keep things the way they were, but even they had to see the writing on the wall.

Times change, but economic principles do not.

There are good reasons why the RP lost ground. There are also good reasons to expect that (*sigh*...ok, NOT in California) reasonable people will look to true conservative measures in the near future.

4:06 PM  
Anonymous GOP in the toilet... said...

This is a fun game. Can anyone play?

Matthew Continetti, The Weekly Standard

The GOP is shell-shocked from last month's election results. The gains the party made in the years since the 1994 Republican revolution have been erased. Republicans are without a clear agenda. People say that Republicans don't have any ideas, but that isn't entirely true. They have plenty of ideas--but too many of them are about which part of their coalition is to blame for their current misfortunes.
This sort of squabbling is less than useless. It's inward-looking, woolly-headed, and only furthers the perception that the GOP is out of touch. Unfortunately, when Republicans have tried to be in touch, they've been tempted to be irresponsible. In September, more than a few were ready to risk the global banking system's collapse in the hopes that they could ride anti-Wall Street populism to victory.

6:06 PM  
Anonymous gyrlie said...

How boooooooooooring...another free market religious idiot lying about the Reagan record.

Then you're supposed to take a lot of time to correct them...before their next load of streaming crap.

Great Article in the Bible of Capitalism, The WSJ, today...basically it tells these peabrains that gOD IS DEAD.

No wonder Murdoch's going liberal...he has the CAPACITY TO LEARN. duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

6:12 PM  
Anonymous g said...

6:14 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

As stupid and unlearned as I have come to expect from you.

As usual, you ignore the points I bring up and shower me with more cut-and-paste bullshit.


How the hell do you know how religious I am or am not? More formulaic nonsense? Perhaps thou dost protest a bit much? Or, just perhaps, you are relying on a formula yourself? I made no call to religion, but you do so repeatedly. I think you have some troubles you need to work out with your therapist.

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Gyrlie said...

Obama ran as a conservative...hahahahahahahhhhahahahahahahaha....that's known as moving to the center for the general election, peabrain. It's something the Dem candidate can do because he has a sophisticated, elite base who knows what he's doing. The poor, stupid, trog GOP can't do that because his base is peabrain Christians, and peckerwood bigots who will crucify him if he strays from the word.

Obama's Team Rankles the Right
To Some Conservatives, Advisers Are Alarmingly Liberal

To some staunch conservatives watching President Bush relinquish the reins of power to President-elect Barack Obama, a few too many ardent liberals are now crashing the gates.

Some well-known Democratic activists are advising Obama on how to steer federal agencies, including a few whom conservative Republicans fought hard to keep out of power in the Clinton administration. They include Roberta Achtenberg, a gay activist whose confirmation as an assistant housing secretary was famously held up by then-Sen. Jesse Helms (N.C.), and Bill Lann Lee, who was hotly opposed by foes of affirmative action and temporarily blocked from the government's top civil rights job.

Conservatives fear that some of these Obama transition advisers are too far left on the political spectrum and are a sign of radical policies to come.

Toooooooo fukkkking funneeeee

10:44 PM  
Anonymous gyrlie said...

He's talking about the "Free" Market religion, simpleton.
All wingbats are religious psychos, some worship the murdering prick in the bible, some The Magic Market.

What a revelation Greenspan had about that...a poc a lyp tic.

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This MPD troll is from the DNC Psychic Hotline, Phelonius... THAT'S how he knows how religious you are... and that's how he channels Marx so ineffectively.

6:43 AM  
Anonymous Republicans in the Toilet said...

Trust in GOP Reaches Record Low

Just 23 percent in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said they trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the main problems facing the nation, the lowest level ever reached by either party.

Trust in the GOP has fallen nine points since May, driven by a 19-point decline among conservatives. Nearly one in five in that group said they trust neither party.

10:53 AM  
Anonymous GOP in the Toilet said...

Alan Greenspan, former Federal Reserve chairman admits the Free Market religion is dead.

I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organizations, specifically banks and others, were such that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms.

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Flush It, he said...

Trust in the GOP has fallen nine points since May, driven by a 19-point decline among conservatives.

Yeah, those guys were always just liberal democrats posing as

10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, those guys were always just liberal democrats posing as

Out the mouths of idiots, some truth is finally found.

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John - You probably don't like Charles Dickens very much, but I just was reminded that he wrote A Christmas Carol as a self-published book.

That's free market economics for you - From
a liberal 19th cent literary man loathed by right wingers for

Y'all will choke on your pretzels when you hear things like that.

PS re Chip Saltsman's racist cd - people who
are not funny should not even try.

10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny to read right wingers say Obama ran as a conservative so soon after they were tellling us that he was running as a marxist or a socialists (and a secret Muslim - conservative?).

Race does funny things to people's judgement.

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right wingers hate Dickens? Whoddathunkit?

Take your strawman building show back to Sayet's place.

5:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama did run as a conservative. He's is actually a Marxist.

Nope, no contradiction.

5:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...all that means is that Obama's a fake and a fraud. But then, you already knew that!

5:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Race does funny things to judgement.

Dickens was on to you guys.

9:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dickens was never in the pantheon of right wing villians like Marx, Freud, or Darwin. But Dickens took a dim view of the type of people on the right in the US today. His commentaries on the 19th cent prisons sound like your favorite sociology professor at college. Dickens also thought the South, with its culture of violence and slavery, was pretty backward. He would be gladdend by the progress since then, but would still find most of todays gop pols from that region pretty amusing. FJ types didn't fare too well in Dickens novels. How's that military record of yours holding up FJ, eh?lol.

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This year's football season is , in many respects, symbolic of the politics of the day.

Lots of people saw the Chargers victory and thought of the Obama victory. Lots of people saw the hapless Detroit Lions and thought of Bush.

Wasn't it great to see McNabb make the playoffs again? Maybe it was great if you don't listen to some racially minded talk radio shows.

9:51 AM  
Anonymous toker said...

PS re Chip Saltsman's racist cd - people who
are not funny should not even try.

It's why right wing comedian is such a contradiction...look at poor Sayet.

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Right in the Toilet said...

Andrew Sullivan, The Atlantic
The crisis is at two levels - the dreadful incompetence and incoherence of the Bush-Cheney administration, which has poisoned the Republican brand for more than one generation, and the emergence of inherent flaws in several strains of conservative thought.
The banking crisis is so close to us and so unresolved it's hard to see it in context, but I fear that Greenspan is right: it's a huge flaw that cannot be explained away by government. The limits of hard power are, in fact, perfectly in line with conservatism's deeper insights into human affairs, with Bush and Cheney acting more as over-reaching utopians than conservative statesmen. And the social conservatism problem has been a function of Christianism: an inability to shape society as it is because their theological doctrine demands adherence to eternal dogma not development of pragmatic policy. So we have their rigid refusal to countenance any legal abortion or any civil recognition of gay couples.

Grappling with any one of these problems would be serious enough. Untangling all three at once? The GOP had better hope Obama really screws up.

11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was particularly can almost feel the poor hick's bitterness.

FJ said...
Yeah, those guys were always just liberal democrats posing as

Out the mouths of idiots, some truth is finally found.

11:20 AM  
Anonymous Ridiculous Right in the Toilet said...

WP: Following an election that has left Republicans with no clear vision about how to regain power, the normally low-profile race to head the GOP's national committee has turned into a six-man showdown that has opened rifts along racial, regional and ideological lines. 1/4

11:27 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

The troll who says the GOP is in the toilet is neither a Republican nor a conservative. He does not know the meaning of conservative and thinks that if we want to win we have to jump ship. If he wants to "win" at all costs I say he ought to be the first man over board.

Start walking that plank...

11:54 AM  
Blogger John said...

"John - You probably don't like Charles Dickens very much..."

Why wouldn't I? I like AUTHENTIC bleeding hearts, and "Carol" deserves it's cherished status as much as Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life" does--notwithstanding George Bailey sounding a lot like a CEO at Fannie and Freddie (with the difference being that he barely kept a dime for himself while the others made off like bandits).

1:48 PM  
Blogger John said...

Gyrlie sneered:

"All wingbats are religious psychos, some worship the murdering prick in the bible...."

Denial. You're the one who obviously worships the murdering prick in The Bible (a.k.a. satan).

2:03 PM  
Anonymous zero credibility said...

As he stands on the sidelines, seemingly oblivious to what's going on in the world, President-elect Barack Obama opts out of the game by proclaiming that there's only one president at a time.

That's another way of saying, "Let George do it" when the Middle East erupts in violence, the economy continues to slump, and the governor of his state defies demands that he step down.

4:24 PM  
Blogger John said...

Like I said, he's acting more and more like a conservative everyday.

He left you far-left losers behind in the primaries.

8:24 PM  
Blogger John said...

...or at least left you behind as chickens and jackasses in the animal farmyard while he picks up the golf clubs and plays the new farmer. Ha ha! SUCKERS. Fools.

8:27 PM  
Anonymous Rats in the toilet said...

Rod Dreher, Beliefnet

There is a conservative Establishment -- a political establishment, yes, but also a think-tank establishment and an opinion-leader establishment -- that has become ossified in its thinking and, over time, more interested in policing its heretics than in thinking creatively about conservatism and its application to the challenges facing our nation and our culture at this particular time. That establishment is dying.

8:27 PM  
Anonymous midnite said...

Jeeezus! That tears it...any shallow, earnest fool who can actually tolerate the puerile, jejeune mawkishness of It's a Wunnerful Life is so fucking stupid and out of it that he's a walking joke to everyone around him.

8:30 PM  
Anonymous midniteinbedlam said...

Lol...what a tingle of schadenfreude plays up and down my liberal leg when I hear the poor, destroyed wingdings imagining O is even remotely conservative.

Amazing what the traumatized mind will grasp at.

I'm sure that with that rawther lurid fantasy playing on the impoverished stages of your tiny minds, however, that we can count on your fullest support for his administration... hahahaha

8:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kelly said...
The troll who says the GOP is in the toilet is neither a Republican nor a conservative. He does not know the meaning of conservative and thinks that if we want to win we have to jump ship. If he wants to "win" at all costs I say he ought to be the first man over board.

Who cares who the poster is, simpleton...the people quoted ARE conservatives...that's the point, peabrain.

8:38 PM  
Blogger John said...

midnite grumbled:

"That tears it...any shallow, earnest fool who can actually tolerate the puerile, jejeune mawkishness of It's a Wunnerful Life..."

Easy, Mr. Potter:

"Sentimental hogwash!"

That's why, in the scheme of things, you're just a miserable, scurvy little spider.

5:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good news from Minnesota: The recount is over, and it is now clear that Al Franken won the Senate election.

The state canvassing board has finished recounting all of the ballots and Franken now holds a lead of 225 votes. The canvassing board is scheduled to certify Franken as the winner today.

It is still possible that various, obstructionist legal issues will delay our victory. But there is no longer any doubt as to the outcome. Even if all the ballots Republican Norm Coleman claims were double counted or erroneously added were resolved in his favor, he still wouldn't have enough votes to win.

Al Franken will be the next senator from Minnesota, and Coleman will soon after be joining Stevens in Federal Prison where they can talk about illegal remodeling schemes.

9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not that the movie is just's just bad...the kind of crap that mediocre morons eat up...especially after they've been told by others how rilly gooood it is Casablanca which is a little better but easily seen to be overrated by a better class of people.

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Toker said...

NewsMax insane today over the huge SOCIALIST, New Deal spending program coming up.

Elated LIBERALS giving O 93% approval.

Vive Franken.

10:06 AM  
Anonymous toker said...

Terrible news for the Reich...strong unions on their way back...another huge, activist, organized constituency for the permanent LIBERAL majority:

Congress to pass Employee Free Choice: Hoyer Predicts Quick Passage

Good news on a Fox News program? Surprisingly enough, yes. Steny Hoyer went on Fox News Sunday yesterday, and not only defended the Employee Free Choice Act as a critical labor law reform, but predicted its quick passage in the new Congress (warning: link goes to Fox News transcript):

WALLACE: Big labor's top priority is what's called union card check, and that would be eliminating the right to a secret ballot in determining whether or not you're going to organize, unionize, a working place.

I love the way that you're smiling already. Are you going to move on that in the first month?

HOYER: I'm smiling because of the way you phrase it. It's the Free Choice Act, of course, and what it does is...

WALLACE: Well, union card check, free choice. Both sides have their best — their euphemisms.

HOYER: Of course, and you used one side. That's why I was smiling.

WALLACE: And you used the other. OK.

HOYER: Well, my point being that we believe that one of the problems that has existed in America is that working people have had a very, very difficult time in getting represented by unions in the workplace.

Workplace has resisted that. The NLRB has not been very vigorous in assuring the lack of unfair labor practices. So we believe that the employees — if over 50 percent of them sign and say, "We want to be represented by a union," they ought to be able to be represented by a union.

Let me say that many, many employers currently under existing law recognize such signatures right now and start to bargain and have a union representative.

WALLACE: Whatever you call it, Congressman, are you going to pass it in the first month?

HOYER: I don't know about the first month, but we're going to pass it early.

As Jane Hamsher notes, it looks like the corporate-Republican astroturf complex may have overplayed its hand by running a multimillion-dollar campaign smearing Democrats on free choice last fall -- with the result being galvanized Democratic support of real labor law reform. But if that wasn't good enough, Hoyer smacked down the bogus right-wing talking point about the Employee Free Choice Act and NLRB elections:

Again, let me stress, Chris, nobody's going to take away the secret ballot. The employees currently have and will have the opportunity to opt for a secret ballot. They don't have to sign the card. They can say, "Look, we'll have an election, and we may vote." But they have that choice right now, and they will continue to have that choice.

Nice stuff from the House leadership.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous al franken will never be seated said...

Good news from Minnesota. The election recount tally has been certified, with no winner declared. On with the court case to count the thrown away ballots from Republic Districts.

2:01 PM  
Anonymous spin spin spin said...

WASHINGTON (AP) - President-elect Barack Obama describes the economy as "bad and getting worse."

He's been on Capitol Hill today, meeting with House and Senate leaders to talk about an economic stimulus plan.

Before meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Obama told reporters, "We have to act and act now," in order to break what he called the "momentum of this recession."

Obama earlier met with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. He said he went to Capitol Hill ahead of his inauguration because "the people's business cannot wait."

2:05 PM  
Blogger John said...

" a better class of people."

Yeah, sure. Just like you.

Wasn't a main point of the "liberal revolution" (the last gasp of a dying insurgency) a rejection of supposedly conservative/Republican outlooks that there were "better classes of people"?


That's why you're inferior, because you're lying sacks of shit impelled out of envy of your betters and feeding your own insecure, traumatized, and hateful egos by thinking that a presidential election of a gimmick and the cyclical, political surge (of a cynical and manipulative ideology that was hatched from the minds of liars and murderers) is a personal validation of your repulsive personalities and meaningless, forever-unfulfilled life.

Meanwhile, after the Right Way has watched you lose your collective minds for eight years while the homeland was secured and the world was changed, we shot our wads and are now smoking a cigarette and chuckling at you sniveling, mindless riff-raff come running in after the show to eat the leftovers and pretend you "won."

Yeah. And Bush was impeached, Cheney & Rummy were arrested on war crimes, Obama will "End the War" in Iraq this Spring (because it's a "debacle"), Christian Evangelists like Rick Warren will be *persona non grata* for the new administration, and the most criminally-corrupt governor in memory of a state of the Union (the same one that the President-Elect and his Chief-of-Staff came out of) is a Republican.

Ha ha ha. Even when you win, you LOSE.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Ian said...

Lol...somebody really knows how to push this poor, insecure mediocrity's buttons.

I have to agree with you, though,
anon... that is one mawkish piece of crap...I gag every Xmas when they put that middlebrow POS on the telly.

11:04 PM  
Blogger John said...

Well, I admit, it doesn't rise to the quality of such serious British Christmas Classics like Benny Hill's "Under The Mistletoe (And Her Bloomers)" and "It's The Goodies' Christmas Cookies."

And let's not forget "Monty Python's "Three Kings & A Virgin," and Dr. Who's 2008 Christmas Special "The Next Doctor."

I can always count on the cheesy Brits to lecture Americans on what true "high-brow" quality is--or the meaning of Christmas, for that matter (aside from Dickens' contribution)--much the same way Mrs. Bucket lectures on the "telly" here.

Oh, I beg your pardon. That's Mrs. "Bouquet."

You're dismissed, Ian.

2:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glenn Greenwald Applauds Obama's Justice Department and CIA Head Appointments. Obama's Ending the Announcement of His Key Appointments with a Distinctly Liberal, Anti-Torture, Pro-Constitution Tilt. 1/7

12:41 PM  
Blogger John said...

Right, as oppossed to the Bush Administration's conservative one (i.e. anti-Constitutional and pro-torture), of course.

Ah, the fevered dementia of the liberal mind. Never has illogic been so easy to diagram.

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John - you chose a gender bending theme for your last post on Obama. This is a recurrent motiff in your posts. That's ok, but it's just an amusing thing. Don't worry - your insecurities are amusing - John the gender bender. However, Obama would mock you for this.

12:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FJ - how's that Lt (jg) commission coming these days? lol.

re Saltsmas's racist cd - that doomed his nomination. If the gop pick him, it will doom them.

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John - laughs aside, you'll gt a kick out of this list:

1:01 AM  
Blogger John said...

"John - you chose a gender bending theme for your last post on Obama. This is a recurrent motiff (sic) in your posts."

Uh, maybe because it's a recurrent characteristic among liberals? (Duh.)

1:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You're the one that's going to be paying my retirement in a couple of years, so you tell me.

8:50 AM  
Blogger John said...

Liberals don't pay taxes--or at least not the "fair share" they accuse rich Republicans and corporations of not paying.

They're either wealthy and/or savvy enough to hire the accountants, lawyers, and/or have the knowledge to find exemptions and shelters, or are too financially-challenged to qualify.

They just hate rich conservatives/Republicans and want to transfer/loot their wealth to bring them down while bribing the recipients to vote Democratic. (After all, the rich--and "out-of-touch"--Republican/conservatives MUST have stolen it, or inherited it, so it isn't "fair" that they keep it).

Or something like that.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

I think it is hilarious that AL Franken is a possible senator from Minnesota. Does this not fit perfectly with a former governor of theirs? Laugh at CA all you want to, but now we are going from a wrestler as governor to a Saturday Night Live comedian as a Senator in that state?

The voters there deserve exactly what they vote for, and I as far as I am concerned, they could have chosen better comedians for the State Senate.

6:39 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Hell, they should have asked for Steven Wright.

"The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."

6:43 PM  
Anonymous Pig said...

Austrian "economist" crackpots:

When Roberts pointed out that Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman has suggested we need an immediate, massive stimulus, Ron Paul replied, "I doubt if he ever read Austrian economics. I don't even know if he knows who Mises is, and Hayak, and Rothbard -- the people who talk about free market."

In fact, Krugman is fully aware of the economists Paul mentions -- and doesn't think much of them. He recently referred back in his New York Times blog to a column of ten years ago, in which he wrote, "A few weeks ago, a journalist devoted a substantial part of a profile of yours truly to my failure to pay due attention to the 'Austrian theory' of the business cycle -- a theory that I regard as being about as worthy of serious study as the phlogiston theory of fire."

8:31 PM  
Blogger John said...

Krugman said it, so it must be true. A "fact."

4:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haha...hey, oinkoink, Pig. Without their quaint, discredited, pathetically outdated,nazi "economists", these dinki have nothing...especially in light of their recent disasters with unregulated markets.

9:49 AM  
Anonymous izyerchillunslarnin? said...

phlogiston theory
phlogiston theory (flōjis'ton) [key], hypothesis regarding combustion. The theory, advanced by J. J. Becher late in the 17th cent. and extended and popularized by G. E. Stahl, postulates that in all flammable materials there is present phlogiston, a substance without color, odor, taste, or weight that is given off in burning. “Phlogisticated” substances are those that contain phlogiston and, on being burned, are “dephlogisticated.” The ash of the burned material is held to be the true material. The theory received strong and wide support throughout a large part of the 18th cent. until it was refuted by the work of A. L. Lavoisier, who revealed the true nature of combustion. Joseph Priestley, however, defended the theory throughout his lifetime. Henry Cavendish remained doubtful, but most other chemists of the period, including C. L. Berthollet, rejected it.

9:53 AM  
Anonymous dsimes said...

Ridiculous Right, installment 5698:

Abstinence-promoting Southern states have highest teen birth rate, according to CDC

11:14 AM  
Blogger John said...

Satan's Playthings, installment one trillion:

1 out of 4 sexually "Enlightened" and "Liberated" NYC residents are infected with herpes.

No abstinence programs there, that's for damn sure.

12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if you Christo-Facists would allow Sex Ed in schools people would learn about STDs and Condom use.

1:54 PM  
Anonymous aft/nea jobs but no work program said...

You've got a 25% STD rate and here's no Sex Ed in NYC Schools? Don't you guys own that city? Oh, that's right. You make sure the Teachers Union prevents ANYTHING from being taught...

2:58 PM  
Blogger John said...

Exactly. Sexually-related morbidities (like STDs and abortions) have their highest frequency in locales politically and/or socially dominated by liberalism.

And then they blame reactionary, conservative abstinence programs for causing the problems they themselves created by precisely the same kind of hateful, vulgar, and all-in-all animalistic character they plainly demonstrate here (but empowered to influence society).

And they think they're "elite" and "classy" because the fellow liberal they piggishly grunt and sweat with in bed and exchange all sorts of infected bodily fluids with is a "lawyer" or could afford a couple thousand dollars for plastic tits or a night club with a $20.00 cover charge.

This is not to denigrate the legal profession, or even cosmetic surgery, or even swanky night clubs, only that their ideas of what constitutes "class" are depraved.

Class is character, and the character--the very nature--of liberalism is just bad.

And even though-- because of liberalism-- they're mentally ill--or just plain stupid--deep down inside (or however deep their liberal shallowness allows honest introspection, which isn't very deep, I'm afraid), they know it (which is why they have the entire stock of psychological defense mechanisms on auto pilot when thinking that they're on offense).

"Fascinating" is much too strong a word for the interest I have in observing the liberal animal in its wild, natural environment (i.e. the political blogosphere), but they do provide interesting--and validating--case studies for psychodynamic theory.

8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As someone noted earlier, the only way this trog piece of shit can debate is to LIE.

EVERYTHING these morons have touched in recent decades has been a disaster...EVERY LAST THING...the country has finally seen through their huge, multi-billion dollar lie machine...but they still keep trying the same old garbage...only now they get it thrown back in their stupid faces.

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A study published in the Lancet shows that between 1995 and 2003, the global rate of induced abortions fell from 35 per 1,000 women each year to 29. This period coincides with the rise of the "globalised secular culture" the Pope laments. When the figures are broken down, it becomes clear that, apart from the former Soviet Union, abortion is highest in conservative and religious societies. In largely secular western Europe, the average rate is 12 abortions per 1,000 women. In the more religious southern European countries, the average rate is 18. In the US, where church attendance is still higher, there are 23 abortions for every 1,000 women, the highest level in the rich world. In central and South America, where the Catholic church holds greatest sway, the rates are 25 and 33 respectively. In the very conservative societies of east Africa, it's 39. One abnormal outlier is the UK: our rate is six points higher than that of our western European neighbours.

Of course, many conservatives are piggishly grunting with underaged boys or girls or with mules, members of the same gender in toilet stalls or with watermelons...and this lowers their astronomical abortion rates somewhat.

10:27 PM  
Anonymous kill my baby, please said...

Who needs clinical abortions when you abort by pill now? Oh, those don't count. LOL!

2:31 PM  
Anonymous 2 smart 2b a librul said...

Every study published in the Lancet since 2000 has a 'taint' of progressive political bias, and is no longer 'science', but "political science".

9:08 AM  
Anonymous Stanbull said...

So, how's this characteristically poor excuse for a conservative blog doing today?

I heard it was de facto owned by a bunch of lefties. That certainly seems to be the case. I guess the weaklings left on our side don't have much to say anymore...or the ability to say it very well.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous john birch said...

No shit, Stan. Your side's got nothing but weakling trolls that cut and paste their way from blog to blog pasting old articles from librul rags putting down conservatism. They don't have idea one of their own.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Stanbull said...

I'm afraid someone misunderstood me. I was talking about the poor excuses for Republicans who can't seem to defend their position.

In fact, all GOP blogs seem to be in the same state of disarray or desperation.

12:09 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Instanbully, I am not sure what where you have been...

1st of all, most of us refuse to argue with dimwhits...its an exercise in futility.

BTW, where is your blog??? You want other people to do the work for that it??

But that does not mean that we have given up on the defending out position...

I thought about listing the links to them here, but decided against it...when you have something constructive to add to the discussion I might consider adding them.

The best thing for you to do is to quit whining and do something instead.

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats rich. The resident Moron who never has anything to contribute other than "Yeah! Go get them" is calling others dimwits.

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol...and she can't even spell it.

Stanbullsh sounds like he may even be a somewhat less retarded GOP but if he is still even in that party, he can't be too bright.

What could you people possibly stand for now? Climate denial? More deregulation? Anti-choice?
More insane wars?

Everything you could support is looked at as a stupid joke by society now.

11:20 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

11:40 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

All of ya, I dare ya to come over to my blog and make a contributing comment. I bet ya won't!

11:42 AM  
Anonymous idjits to the Left of me said...

Nobody "misunderstood" you Stan. Like most libruls, you just can't express yourself very well.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A dare, eh, Kelly?

whyzzat? You got one of those blogs that don't allow non-bloggers...and which doesn't get any comments except from yourself?

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Manfired Manpussy said...

Weapons Killing People In Gaza, Made In USA

United States House of Representatives

Statement on H Res 34, Recognizing Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza, Reaffirming the United States strong support for Israel, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. January 09, 2009

By Ron Paul

January 10, 2009 -- Madame Speaker, I strongly oppose H. Res. 34, which was rushed to the floor with almost no prior notice and without consideration by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The resolution clearly takes one side in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US interests. I am concerned that the weapons currently being used by Israel against the Palestinians in Gaza are made in America and paid for by American taxpayers. What will adopting this resolution do to the perception of the United States in the Muslim and Arab world? What kind of blowback might we see from this? What moral responsibility do we have for the violence in Israel and Gaza after having provided so much military support to one side?

As an opponent of all violence, I am appalled by the practice of lobbing homemade rockets into Israel from Gaza. I am only grateful that, because of the primitive nature of these weapons, there have been so few casualties among innocent Israelis. But I am also appalled by the longstanding Israeli blockade of Gaza -- a cruel act of war -- and the tremendous loss of life that has resulted from the latest Israeli attack that started last month.

There are now an estimated 700 dead Palestinians, most of whom are civilians. Many innocent children are among the dead. While the shooting of rockets into Israel is inexcusable, the violent actions of some people in Gaza does not justify killing Palestinians on this scale. Such collective punishment is immoral. At the very least, the US Congress should not be loudly proclaiming its support for the Israeli government’s actions in Gaza.

Madame Speaker, this resolution will do nothing to reduce the fighting and bloodshed in the Middle East. The resolution in fact will lead the US to become further involved in this conflict, promising “vigorous support and unwavering commitment to the welfare, security, and survival of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.” Is it really in the interest of the United States to guarantee the survival of any foreign country? I believe it would be better to focus on the security and survival of the United States, the Constitution of which my colleagues and I swore to defend just this week at the beginning of the 111th Congress. I urge my colleagues to reject this

4:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just checked you out Kelly. Looks like a really, really sick,little menage a trois going on over there...and nothing else.

Do you find yourselves convincing?

4:57 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...


I told Kelly that you guys would never ever post under a name. You like to call names and hide behind "anonymous" because that is what cowards do. We do not fear your names and stupidity, and you will still not be able to do what she asked because you will have to go on at least some kind of record.

I post here continuously under one name because I want people to know what I believe and I am not ashamed of that, ever. I post at the other site with one name because I am not afraid of what you adolescent morons might or might not believe. know something?

*I* figured out how to post under a name, and I did not have to think about it really at all. If you want me to, I could draw you a crayon picture of how to do that, and then I could tell you what your mistakes are there as well. Only there, you will have to be an adult and identify yourself.

Not to take away from John here. He likes this format and has a lot of integrity, and he always posts under the same name. You guys do not have the guts to do that.

5:29 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

C'mon, "anonymouse," go ahead and come over and post and tell me why we are sick.

Then you will get an education if you actually read English.

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Peeg said...

Haha...yarite...phelonious is like uh yore real name...whadda cunt

"I"?? ...and an illiterate dipshit.

10:38 PM  
Anonymous chickenshiites said...


6:52 AM  
Blogger nanc said...

kelly & phelonius - if you have sitemeters, chances are anonymous posters are too lily-livered to show up and make a statement. very few trolls have the wherewithal to have a meaningful confrontation.

john - if you want to do away with this madness, you should switch to sitemeter - these moonbats have got it knee deep in guano here!

9:23 AM  
Blogger nanc said...

p.s. - they'll also attack under proxy servers, but in haloscan you can edit their comments.

9:24 AM  
Anonymous Gyrlie said...

Haha...they've got an inbred little site that no one goes to anyway...and they're worrying about anonymous comments!! All the big sites including e.g. ABC News etc have anon fact they're all anonymous since people typically use screen names. These weak losers can't deal with the opinions and facts head on so they whine about c and p and irrelevancies.

Besides, most of us are here just to laugh at you and poke the corpse...I didn't know the dying were so sensitive.

12:09 PM  
Anonymous we've only just begun said...

The dying aren't sensitive... so get the 'f out, loser!

2:55 PM  
Anonymous s'quelix said...

Lol...sounds like that little dork is HYPERsensitive.

4:38 PM  
Anonymous bigskycountry said...

Anony has to entertain himself somehow--not much to do in a small town.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Already last spring, nearly two thirds of 109 professional historians polled by the 'History News Network' rated Bush the worst president in the nation's history, while another 35 percent said he was among the ten worst of the 42 who preceded him. And that was six months before the mid-September financial crisis that most economists agree will turn out to be the worst since the Great Depression of the 1930's!

9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama Meets GOP "Pundits."

First, shouldn't you be SMART to be a pundit?

I laughed when I heard about this
Basically its a room full of people whose work over the past year and a half or so was dedicated to defeating Obama. And now they have to sit down at a table with the living, breathing proof of their total defeat.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Hamas Can't Lose, Uri said...

January 13, 2009

Gaza: A Scene Of Devastation

Must Watch Video Report From Inside Gaza

Al Jazeera's Ayman Mohyeldin reports on the public who are struggling to cope under the bombardment in Gaza. Continue


Gaza is Sinking in a River of Blood:

A Message from a Gazan to the World

By Mohammed Fares Al Majdalawi

I invite you to come to Gaza and see the Holocaust. Because despite the siege, the barriers, the killing of my people and homes, and the total destruction of our lives by the Israeli occupation, they can not and will not kill the will of our people for equality and justice. Continue


Gaza Boy Recounts House of Death

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

Speaking to Reuters from his hospital bed in Gaza, the boy recounted how his family came to be herded into the building that was later targeted. Continue


Gaza: UN Official Reports

Horrific Hospital Scenes of Casualties

By UN News Centre

“(It) is the place of course where you see the most horrific human consequences of this conflict. Among the tragic cases that I saw were a child, six years of age, little or no brain activity, people don’t have much hope for her survival; multiple amputee – another little girl; and a pregnant woman who’d lost a leg,” he said. Continue


Israel Is Committing War Crimes

Hamas's violations are no justification for Israel's actions.


Israel's current assault on the Gaza Strip cannot be justified by self-defense. Rather, it involves serious violations of international law, including war crimes. Senior Israeli political and military leaders may bear personal liability for their offenses, and they could be prosecuted by an international tribunal. Continue


In the Name Of Humanity

2 Minute Video

Alex Thomson from Channel 4 news on January 08.2009 @ 8pm (London news) refuses to drink the Israeli Kool Aid. Continue


The "Generous Offer" Update:

Two Years of Starvation Followed by Fire-bombing

By Mike Whitney

Hamas has withstood the ferocious Israeli assault without knuckling under or making any concessions. They've proved that they are the legitimate representatives of the Palestinian people and the standard bearers of the national liberation movement. Their place at the head of the government is now assured thanks to Israel's blunder. Continue


Israel's War of Deceit, Lies and Propaganda

By Uri Avnery

THE FAILURE to grasp the nature of Hamas has caused a failure to grasp the predictable results. Not only is Israel unable to win the "war", Hamas cannot lose it. Continue


We Will Not Go Down

A Song for Gaza


Women and children alike Murdered and massacred night after night While the so-called leaders of countries afar Debated on who's wrong or right. Continue


Occupation 101

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Award-winning documentary film on the root causes of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unlike any other film ever produced on the conflict -- 'Occupation 101' presents a comprehensive analysis of the facts and hidden truths surrounding the never ending controversy and dispels many of its long-perceived myths and misconceptions. Continue


Gaza Conflict Will Shake the Arab World

By Ismail Patel

Egypt's leadership could be the first hit by shockwaves sent through the neighbourhood by Israel's attacks. Continue

9:38 PM  
Anonymous D. Simes said... wonder Murdoch's turning liberal:

Air America vs. Fox News

Fox News is always ragging on Air America. They say that a liberal radio network can't work, the hosts don't have any talent and that the network is always losing money. So, let's see how Air America did against Fox News last year.

In 2008, former Air America host, Al Franken was elected the next Senator from Minnesota. Current Air America host Rachel Maddow was given her own television show on MSNBC, where she instantly doubled the ratings [1] and even beat legendary Larry King on CNN (and also tripled the ratings of current Fox host Glenn Beck when he was on CNN Headline News in the same time slot).

In 2008, no Fox News host or anchor became a United States Senator. Nor did anyone double their ratings. To be fair, they still did relatively well in the ratings although both CNN and MSNBC closed ground on them during the year.

Oh yeah, one other thing - their parent corporation lost a tremendous amount of money. The Rupert Murdoch run News Corporation lost $30 billion in market cap [2]. Yes, Fox's parent corporation lost a stunning $30 billion in value in 2008. Boy, those conservatives sure know how to run a business!

What happened, I thought Air America couldn't make money? Did you know that Fox News lost $90 million a year for its first five years [3] of operation? Air America has never come close to losing that kind of money. But you see, when it comes to them, they call that an investment. When it comes to liberal networks, they just call it losing money.

Does that distinction make any sense? Of course, not. But their advantage is that they don't live in the reality-based world. So, they can use any rhetorical trick they like and not be held accountable. But here is the problem, the reality-based world has a way of catching up with you. Just ask George Bush. And in this case, it caught up to News Corp. to the tune of $30 billion. Ouch.

I assume we won't be hearing much from Fox anymore about how to run a business. Or how to run a Senate campaign. Or how to double your ratings. They might be best served by drinking a tall glass of shut up juice for awhile. Somehow, I doubt they will though.

9:43 PM  
Anonymous liv by da poll die by da pole said...

In 2000 AND again in 2004 the American people first elected and then overwhelmingly re-elected George W. Bush. Where were those disparaging "historians" then?

9:49 AM  
Anonymous St. Sac said...

Thomas Frank: Centrism is a chump's game. Democrats have massive majorities these days not because they waffle hither and yon but because their historic principles have been vindicated by events. This is their moment. Let the other side do the triangulating.

9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They might be best served by drinking a tall glass of shut up juice for awhile. Somehow, I doubt they will though.

I donno; it seems like most of the cons don't have to much to say anymore.

10:06 AM  
Blogger John said...

President-Elect Obama on GITMO:

It is more difficult than I think a lot of people realize. Part of the challenge that you have is that you have a bunch of folks that have been detained, many of whom who may be very dangerous who have not been put on trial or have not gone through some adjudication. And some of the evidence against them may be tainted even though it’s true. And so how to balance creating a process that adheres to rule of law, habeas corpus, basic principles of Anglo American legal system, by doing it in a way that doesn’t result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up.


12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The death of the moderate Republican
Former Rep. Tom Davis, perhaps the smartest man in the GOP:

But let’s not kid ourselves, our party is broken. We talked to ourselves and not to voters. We became more concerned with stem cell policy than economic policy, and with prayer in schools rather than balance in our public budgets and priorities. Not so long ago, it was easy to paint the Democrats as the party of extremists. Now, they say we’re extremists, and voters agree.

As a result, we’ve seen our support erode. Urban centers remain under Democratic control. Exurbs and rural areas remain under Republican dominance. But in the battleground that lies between – the suburbs -- we were winning them; now we’re not. Our candidates are safe in a swath that extends from North Texas across to North Alabama and up through Appalachia. Elsewhere, we are on the run. Almost every voter who can be convinced – who sometimes votes Democratic, sometimes Republican – now votes Democratic.

We’ve long-since given up on the African-American vote. We’re forfeiting the Hispanic vote with unwarranted and unsavory vitriol against immigrants. Youth vote? Gone. We ask for nothing from these idealistic voters, we offer little except chastisement of their lifestyle choices and denial of global warming, and we are woefully behind the Democrats in learning how to connect with them.

Soccer moms? They’re not comfortable with much of our social policy agenda, so many are gone as well. NASCAR dads? They’re our last redoubt, and the trends even there are not encouraging as unemployment rises and 401 (k)s are decimated. They want clean, competent government that meets basic challenges. They don’t see tax cuts or stimulus checks that net them another $500 per year as meaningful, and they are not comfortable with the profligate deficits that result. As one veteran Republican campaign professional told pollster Charlie Cook: Voting for tax increases hurts politically much more than voting for tax cuts helps.

Sounds about right. To put numbers to what Davis writes above, from the 2008 exit polls (2004 results):

Obama McCain Kerry Bush Change
Urban: 63 35 54 45 D+19
Suburban: 50 48 47 52 D+7
Rural: 45 53 42 57 D+7

Northeast: 59 40 56 43 D+6
Midwest: 54 44 48 51 D+13
South: 45 54 42 58 D+7
West: 57 40 50 49 D+16

African 95 4 88 11 D+14
Latino: 67 31 53 44 D+27

18-29: 66 32 54 45 D+25

Married Women 51 47 (n/a)

Davis worries about suburban voters because, yes, they now edge Democratic. But the seven-point swing in the Democrat's direction in the suburbs matched the seven-point swing in rural areas. Davis' rural GOP stronghold is looking flimsier by the day. Gains in the South were driven in large part by increased African American turnout. Take them out, and white southern males are truly the GOP's dead-enders.

The two biggest problems for the GOP, which Davis noted, are the 18-29 year olds and Latinos. Without those two groups, the GOP is fated for DEEP minorities for a generation. Just look at those swings!

So what are Davis' solutions?

First, we eliminate checklists and litmus tests and focus on broad principles, not heavy-handed prescriptions. Free trade. Strong defense – at home and abroad. Government as small as is practicable in these times. Economic, education and energy policies that promote growth, energy independence and a competitive agenda that will allow businesses to grow and compete, not be protected by artificial barriers.

That is the current GOP agenda minus one big, glaring omission: nothing about "Strong family values". In fact, he ignores the issue altogether, pretending that the modern GOP isn't beholden to its Sarah Palin wing. I have no doubt Palin cost McCain support among independents and Democrats, but she certainly energized McCain's campaign by bringing aboard its most motivated foot soldiers. Who does Tom Davis think will knock on doors for GOP candidates if you strip out its evangelical base? Wall Street Rockafeller Republicans? Stockbrokers? Bankers?

He does offer one good bit of advice to his party, hitting a note that I've latched on the past several years:

We also need to stop talking about how much we hate government if we expect people to elect us to run it. Perfecting it, reducing it to its ideal size, having it accomplish what we need with minimal resources requires that we embrace it and study it and work hard at it.

Great advice, but good luck selling it. Because at its core, the GOP hates government. That's why Bush placed "heckuva job" Brownie in charge of FEMA. Because had he nominated someone competent and able to run complex logistical disaster relief operations, government would've worked. And if government works, then all the GOP propaganda about the evil government would be laid bare. If Republicans claim government doesn't work, then of course they can't run government that works. Davis gets this, but his party's patron saint set the tone when he said:

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

In an ideological battle between Ronald Reagan and Tom Davis, who do you think will win?

So worthy effort, Tom, but smart move getting out. You go to Congress with the Republican Party you have--not the Republican Party you might want or wish to have at a later time.

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama to Close Guantamamo as One of First Acts After Hosing Bush Stink Out of Whitehouse 1/14

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Shuv said...

Distraught Conservatives Retreating into the Realm of Fantasy

I'm not a psychologist, but this is really fascinating if you put it all together: It appears that distraught conservative pundits and bloggers are actually in the midst of collectively retreating into the world of fantasy as a psychological defense mechanism. Let's take a look at three recent exhibits that illustrate what I'm talking about.

Exhibit A: The RedState Army Strike Force
Earlier this month, the most prominent conservative blog,, began promoting what they've dubbed the RedState Army Strike Force. They've even gone so far as to design a unit crest reminiscent of an actual military insignia:

This Strike Force is apparently code for a political "field organization." And yes, it's funny. But what makes it a little odd are the periodic posts on the website that use an overabundance of military language when referencing normal political field activity. Like this excerpt from a post by founder Erick Erickson called "Soldiers on the Ground:"

In Kentucky we have only 75 members of the RedState Army of Activists. We need a surge in Kentucky -- we need an army of activists who are willing to pick up the phone and metaphorically kick Mitch McConnell in the nuts as situations warrant.

McConnell either works for our side or he works for the Democrats. But the only people he'll really listen to are in Kentucky. Same with other Senators.

So if you haven't signed up and aren't willing to help, stop the bitching. It's time to deploy the troops and fight.

When faced with the reality that they don't have any field infrastructure remotely close to anything progressives have put together in the past two years, it's almost as if these bloggers start... fantasizing. Like kids. What their project doesn't demonstrate, however, is any in-depth knowledge of field organizing or any seeming long-term commitment to the hard work that accompanies the act of successful political organizing. It's as if, rather than facing up to their electoral failures in 2006 and 2008, they'd rather take solace in pretending to be "warriors" locked in "battle" with their Democratic enemies.

But here's where they really start to make the stampeding retreat into fantasy:

Exhibit B: Repeated References to a Fictional TV Character as a Role Model and Source for Torture Policy
Just watch:

Ryan Powers does the honors for ThinkProgress:

The right wing's love affair with Bauer's use of torture is rooted in fantasy. The so-called "ticking time bomb" scenarios that Bauer often finds himself in and that conservatives cite as instances where torture should be allowed rarely, if ever, occur.
Unfortunately, Powers adds:

If right wingers see Bauer as an example of how to prosecute the war on terror, they might be disheartened to learn that even the man that plays Bauer, actor Keifer Sutherland, doesn't see his character's torture techniques as effective in real life. "You torture someone and they'll basically tell you exactly what you want to hear, whether it's true or not, if you put someone in enough pain," Sutherland said last year.
But that's no matter for your average conservative talking head or blogger. To them, Bauer has become a surrogate -- a stand-in -- for the leaders they wish they had. Even a number of my conservative Facebook friends have begun updating their statuses to praise Mr. Bauer. It's catching on. Thus, while liberals and moderates rally around the upcoming inauguration of a real, actual, charismatic leader and role model, conservatives are left to soothe their scared and broken psyches by taking comfort in the efforts and tribulations of a fictional character on a TV program.

Lastly, we come to my favorite:

Exhibit C: Making a Regular, Blue-Collar Guy into a War Correspondent who Delivers the News They Want to Hear
Whereas most of America sees a largely incoherent plumber from Ohio wandering cluelessly around Israel with a microphone, conservatives are witnessing the reincarnation of Ernie Pyle before their very eyes. Of course, if you've heard the guy open his mouth, you know this is, indeed, fantasy. But it had to be done. When the bad news delivered by the likes of Nic Robertson, Michael Ware, and Christiane Amanpour reached a crescendo for conservatives toward the end of October, they decided to invent their own reporter. In their own minds, they pined for one who wouldn't challenge their long-held beliefs that Arabs are Muslims and Muslims are bad, that Saddam did 9/11, and that there was no way a man named Barack Hussein Obama could ever be elected as President of the United States.

That trailblazing, fearless reporter for truth became Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher -- a man who, as soon as he got there, proclaimed "the media should be abolished from reporting."

I have to say, though, that of all the recent conservative fantasies, the idea of Joe the Plumber as the voice of conservative American media is the least surprising. That's because it is a persistent belief among many on the Right that training is unnecessary, that education is for elitists, and that wishing hard enough for something can supersede those things.

And I'm okay with all this. To me, it's evolution. By retreating so deeply into this fantasy world of strike forces, pro-torture heroes, and swashbuckling, allied journalists, we're witnessing a self-induced thinning of the herd by conservatives. They're actively choosing not to participate in the reality that is present-day America, instead opting to fall back on the comforting, familiar images of handymen and handsome actors on their television sets.

So much the better for the country. We'll tackle real problems head on -- with real solutions starting next Tuesday. And we will progress without them.

2:21 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...


I heard all of that bullshit before.

I remember when Carter was the savior of mankind, and he was going to restore the character of American Government.

Carter did several things, and not all of them were bad things. Unfortunately, most of them were bad things. Now I am supposed to believe that the very things that destroyed the Carter administration are now going to work for the Obama administration.

Fair enough. I wish him the best.

I do not believe it for a second, but I am damn sure willing to look and see what happens.

Phelonius is on record. The rest of Anonymous is just going to have to wait and see a couple of years from now if I am right. Right or wrong, this name will be attached to this prognosis.

7:30 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Any body else willing to put a name to their ideals?

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Bob said...

How about Bob...will Bob do? It's shorter than Phelonius and just as phony.

9:07 PM  
Anonymous Bob said...

Bob said years ago that Bush was a catastrophe and a moron. We don't have to wait to see about that prognosis.

Former R. Rep Tom Davis just confirmed it ....among a zillon others.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous poopy head said...

Too bad for Bob that truth doesn't take polls.

5:27 AM  
Anonymous bob said...

Why do wingbat morons like pretentioujs latin so much? Is it compensatory because they recongnize that they're ignorant, dim witted people in comparison to the sophisticated and elite leftists?

Semper Vigilo, Paratus, Fidelis et Gratus!

8:56 AM  
Anonymous bob said...

Can any of you (two) people on this blog recommend a good conservative blog where there is debate and actual discussion taking place?

I mean one that has at least a few dozen regular contributors.

8:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quoth the moron..."My view is is that most people around the world, they respect America.
And some of them doesn't like me..."
-- Our Monkey in a Man Suit President,

George, is English really your first language?

Did your parents say "some doesn't" around the house when you were growing up?

Hahahaha...this begs the question: Are our presidunce learning?

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GW Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades and
economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little
progress on the nation's thorniest fiscal challenges.

...the most tepid growth over any eight-year span since data collection began seven decades ago.
Gross domestic product grew at the slowest pace since Truman amd Americans' incomes grew
more slowly than in any presidency other than that of Bush's father.

It's the job of a Republican president to destroy the economy to the super-rich
can swoop in and buy bankrupt American companies for 10 cents on the dollar.

Major economists, including some former advisers to Bush, say it increasingly looks as if the nation's
economic expansion was driven to a large degree by the interrelated booms in the housing market,
consumer spending and financial markets...all artificial boosts having nothing to do with any real improvement. Those booms, which the Bush administration encouraged
with the idea of an "ownership society," have proved unsustainable.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've also been looking for a better blog, Bob...I'll let you know pretty soon, then we can let these 2 guys doze off.

Simperatum elaticus bono fido doggo bonoricus!

If you know what I mean...haha.

9:16 AM  
Anonymous sic semper ignorami said...

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) likely will introduce his controversial legislation to reinstate the draft again this year, but he will wait until after the economic stimulus package is passed.

Asked if he plans to introduce the legislation again in 2009, Rangel last week said, “Probably … yes. I don’t want to do anything this early to distract from the issue of the economic stimulus.”

Rangel’s military draft bill did create a distraction for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) soon after Democrats won control of Congress after the 2006 election.

In the wake of that historic victory, Pelosi said publicly that she did not support the draft and that the Democratic leadership would not back Rangel’s legislation. She also said Rangel’s legislation was not about reinstating the draft but was instead “a way to make a point” about social inequality.

10:55 AM  
Blogger John said...

Take a hint, Bob.

2:27 PM  
Blogger nanc said...

here's a new climate change for you, john.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahhaahha...tooo funny...Former head of faith-based initiatives in Ohio faces prostitution-related charges
The former head of faith-based programs in Ohio was arrested Wednesday on charges he promoted prostitution, local news organizations report.

WCMH-TV reports that Robert McFadden, director of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives in Ohio, faces seven felony charges, including promotion of prostitution.

He is accused of operating a rate-a-prostitute website, among other things.

A spokesman tells the Dayton Daily News "this is a very sad, shocking and appalling situation."

"Police said they believe McFadden was 'Toby,' the man they have been looking for during the past two months after busting up a prostitution ring from a home on Front Street in which prostitutes were raffled off on Craig’s List," the station says.

Investigators tell the Dispatch that McFadden is also accused of posting photographs of a 17-year-old prostitute on the Internet. "McFadden, who told police yesterday that he is unemployed, was laid off by the Department of Rehabilitation and Correction in March because of budget cuts," the paper says.

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republicans Side with EEEvil Every Time. Every time, says Republican:

McClellan: Bush farewell sounds like Charlie Brown's

You know things are bad when your former spokesman is comparing you with a character on Charlie Brown.

Or if you're a Republican president and they're going on MSNBC's Countdown.

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann grilled former Bush White House press secretary Scott McClellan last night about the president's farewell address to the nation. McClellan, who turned critic after exiting the White House, didn't exactly wax elegantly about his onetime boss.

"It's hard to talk about moral clarity when you have tarnished our government's moral standing in the world," McClellan said. "If you look at the speech it was really a feel-good farewell speech. It was designed one final chance to burnish his legacy by highlighting his humanity, showing his humanity, his compassion, his inner decency and good intentions."

But "there are really two problems they don't seem to get," Bush's ex-press secretary remarked. "First of all, the public trust. The president long ago sadly lost the public trust. They are no longer listening to what he has to say or buying what he is selling. Unless he is willing to come out and talk candidly about his own mistakes, his own policy mistakes, and address those issues openly with the American people they are not tuning in."

"It's the same song," he continued, "and just a different variation of it. It's like listening to Charlie Brown's teacher. The... reason he lost the public trust was because of his actions and his policies and the way he went about those policies or implementing those policies and selling those policies to the American people. I think that you can't -- it's terribly mistaken to think good intentions and your inner decency will somehow outweigh your actions and policies and the way you went about them with the American people. They're terribly mistaken if they think the American people think that is more important than what he did while he was in office."

Charlie Brown's teacher was represented in movies as a voice made by a trombone with a plunger -- continually squawking but never making sense...hahaha...good stuff, Scottie.

Ironically, it was McClellan who sang the Bush song as spokesman for the White House during some of its most tumultuous periods -- declaring that the White House had no involvement in the outing of a CIA officer while the chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney was obstructing justice in the investigation. McClellan said that he'd been lied to, and this betrayal resulted in a harsh tell-all, What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception, released earlier this year.

"I suspect the next big platform for trying to sell his legacy will be Karl Rove's book," McClellan told Olbermann. "I suspect that in that book it will be an attempt to shift responsibility and put blame everywhere else for everything that went wrong during the last eight years whether it was the Katrina response, whether it was the basis for the Iraq war, the prosecution of the Iraq war or the economy or the poisonous Washington environment, responsibility lies everywhere else except with this president. That is a terrible mistake."

10:53 AM  
Blogger John said...

Yeah. McLellan says so, so it must be true, so there.

Ever hear of the logical fallacy of appealing to (dubious) authority?

And I suppose, dolt, that the opinions of a traitorous, opportunistic buffoon carries much more weight than the combined assessments of fellow Bush Press Secretaries Ari Fleischer's, the late Tony Snow's, and Dana Perino's.

And since your fascist, anti-American crowd has suddenly found cause to celebrate majorities, that's the votes of 3 Press Secretaries against one, a landslide of opinion that crushes the lone, renegade voice of the squeaking McLellan's.

And yet you, since you rush in here and spitefully wallpaper trhe place with that scatological piece, presumably give his opinion greater authority over the consensus of the others (and that from a stool who likes to crow "Consensus!"--even when there really isn't one outside of a circle-jerk) when any of it validates your skullduggery, like the traitor McLellan does, even thouggh it's outside a consensus of his peers.

You're a disgrace. Dismissed.

3:50 PM  
Anonymous if it has a (d), it's a pervert said...

LOL! I wonder how McFadden the perv got his job as director of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives in Ohio...

Dailey said he may have met Strickland as early as 2004 while working with Catholics for Kerry, a group backing the presidential efforts of Democratic Sen. John Kerry.

Strickland (D) was the Governor who appointed him...

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John you are a dope. Tony Snow is DEAD and doesn't have anything to say about the administration. And Perino is going to badmouth the adminstration as she currently works for it. So you have to rely on Fleischer vs Mclennan. Your 3 vs 1 is 1 vs 1 at best. Moron...

5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you like the way the weak little man comes out with a bunch of specious, overwrought crap, beats his bony, little chest and then claims victory? Isn't that pathetic act getting a little old even for this toothless maroon?

McClellan is just one of an endless array of Republicans saying the same thing. For example, someone posted the Rep. Davis statements just above that.
How many of their top guys can they ignore before they get a glimpse of sordid reality and shoot themselves?

Oh...uh...dismissed! hahahahaha

6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McFadden liked girls, not underage boys like the typical GOPerv. That should have told you he wasn't the average Republican. But he was the typical family values, KKKrischun hypocrite and Strickland had moved his ass out of that position long before. Just some flakey godgoop
who thought he could suck up better as a phony Democrat.

7:01 PM  
Blogger John said...

"John you are a dope."

And you're brilliant.

"Tony Snow is DEAD..."

Duh. I said "the late Tony Snow's...," genius.

"...and doesn't have anything to say about the administration."

His sentiments were clear, ghoul.

"And Perino is going to badmouth the adminstration as she currently works for it."

She's not a mercenary/prostitute like Scottie-boy.

"So you have to rely on Fleischer vs Mclennan. Your 3 vs 1 is 1 vs 1 at best. Moron..."

Nice try, shit-for-brains. Tony Snow was a staunch loyalist with integrity, and Perino is likewise.

You remember all the hysterics about Bush's "Attack On Science," don't you? Of course you do. You had your little chair in the choir and chanted along from the same page: "BUSH IS ANTI-SCIENCE! BUSH IS ANTI-SCIENCE! BUSH IS ANTI-SCIENCE!"

Along with Bush's theism--particularly his Evangelical faith-- and his blockage of further R&D on embryonic stem cells, the charge was also because Dana was editing hysterical reports on "Global Warming" at her sober discretion.

And good for her.

Anyway, she's one of ours. You can have Scotty.

For you to disqualify Tony's well-known staunch support for President Bush (to his dying days) because he's "DEAD" (and it felt so good for you to smugly rub that in, didn't it? Why? Because you know he loved President Bush, that's why), and to assume the worst about Dana Perino's character so as to arrive at your "1 vs. 1, AT BEST!" score is just more proof that you have cognitive deficits (if not mental illness).

"Don't you like the way the weak little man comes out with a bunch of specious, overwrought crap..."

Like coming out and pretentiously saying stuff like "specious, overwrought crap"?

You're locked on projection mode.

" his bony, little chest..."

Ha ha. Come over here and say that. I bet I can do more push-ups than you.

"...and then claims victory?"

Still projecting. That's exactly your m.o.: "Hahaha! I win!"--and that while your rubbing your rosy-cheeked behind, because any objective observer knows that you've been spanked silly by me. Furthermore, by your projection, you know it, too.

You're sick. Get help.

"Isn't that pathetic act getting a little old even for this toothless maroon?"

I don't think so. Furthermore, you don't think so, either. You like my schtick. And stick. That's why you keep coming back for more.

It's battered wife syndrome.

I repeat: Get help.

"McClellan is just one of an endless array of Republicans..."

Yes! An "endless" array! "Ath far ath the eye can THEEE!"

"...saying the same thing. For example, someone posted the Rep. Davis statements just above that."

Okay, that's one (and a dubious one, at that, like quoting David Brooks as an authoratitive conservative). You've got a long way to go to get anywhere near "endless," you hyperbolizing freak.

"How many of their top guys can they ignore before they get a glimpse of sordid reality and shoot themselves?"

A lot less than you ignored when even top guy Al Gore--the Democratic nominee for president in 2000--ran away from the sordid reality of the Clinton era now mythologized as some Eden of "Peace & Prosperity" before the Fall.

And lost, anyway. Aw. Poor Al. That really unhinged him. And you. That was the catalyst for the collective psychotic breakdown of the Bush-hating Left (even though they were already crazed monkeys to begin with).

"Oh...uh...dismissed! hahahahaha"

You are dismissed. As a fool.

"McFadden liked girls, not underage boys like the typical GOPerv."

Or the mayor of Racine, Gary Becker. Five felony counts, little girls and boys.

A Democrat, btw.


7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes a special kind of fool to have your head as far up your ass as this blogger...there have been so many big name Repubs come out against Bush and for Obama that it is an embarrassment to the GOP. I see many have been mentioned on this blog.

Just one of many:

Tony Campbel
Thomas Sowell, in his piece “Conservatives for Obama?” made the following statement:

“A number of friends of mine have commented on an odd phenomenon that they have observed-- conservative Republicans they know who are saying that they are going to vote for Barack Obama. It seemed at first to be an isolated fluke, perhaps signifying only that my friends know some strange conservatives. But apparently columnist Robert Novak has encountered the same phenomenon and has coined the term ‘Obamacons’ to describe the conservatives for Senator Obama.”

For the esteemed Mr. Sowell, whom I read a lot, and other folks who are scratching their collective heads over why Conservatives will vote for Obama over McCain in November, here are a few reasons for you to consider:

Reorganizing our National Security apparatus – Since the passing of the Patriot Act, America has restructured its intelligence and national security procedures to prevent another terrorist attack. Conservatives understand the need for surveillance methods to prevent another attack on the American people and our property; however, not all of them support the use of fear to systematically change the social contract between the government and the people regarding their civil liberties under the law. They would, however, support a reexamination of segments of the Patriot Act that would re-establish the proper bounds between government need and individual liberty.
Immigration Reform - Over the past two decades our borders have become porous and that lack of attention has threatened our national security. Conservatives understand that many of these non-documented visitors are hardworking people who currently serve in many important aspects of the American economy. It is neither feasible, nor in the country’s best economic interest, to seek to deport millions of people who contribute to our fiscal and social vibrancy as a nation. To do so would require creating a new agency of the national government with thousands of employees to implement this deportation policy. There are Conservatives who feel this type of reactionary policy is short-sighted and centered more on partisanship than in providing a common sense solution. For these individuals, a pragmatic Conservative stand would support a policy that will identify benchmarks to obtain United States citizenship.
Foreign Policy – To ensure a safe America, some Conservatives believe that the primary issue of foreign policy that has to be addressed by the 44th President of the United States is to rebuild a relationship of mutual trust between us and our international allies. America has lost its leadership position in the world over the last six years. This is not only damaging in the relationship with our allies, but also hazardous in our diplomatic maneuverings with countries such as China, Iran and North Korea. A Conservative approach would support a direction of foreign policy that is practical and pragmatic (i.e. Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush). A foreign policy that uses diplomatic, economic and military assets to reach achievable goals on the international stage.
Healthcare – Millions of Americans can not seek preventative healthcare assistance to address the myriad of issues they face on a daily basis. These unchecked health concerns eventually become emergency room visits that help to drive up insurance costs for employers and employees covered under medical plans. A pragmatic Conservative platform would support the development of a voluntary universal healthcare plan that allows flexibility of services and allows for States to meet the needs of their citizens without burdensome and unfunded regulations from Washington, D.C. through our constitutionally mandated federal system of government.
The Economy and the War in Iraq – Under the reasons for establishing a new government, Thomas Jefferson stated that government is charged with protecting “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” of its citizens. A strong, robust economy falls under the heading of the “pursuit of happiness.” The U.S. has spent in excess of $100 Billion a year on a war that over seventy percent of the American people do not want, representing twenty percent of our annual GDP. Our current economic condition, with rising prices for everything from gas to food coupled with stagnant wages, has only provided a very few people with the ability to pursue happiness. A pragmatic Conservative approach would support a carefully planned disengagement of our troops from Iraq. The financial resources used to pay for the war may be used on a real economic stimulus plan that will be focused on re-training American workers and businesses to be competitive in the global marketplace.

Some Conservatives have finally realized, after twenty years, that national elections are too critical to waste on partisan rhetoric that does not solve any of the serious problems of our country. Government should focus on strengthening our borders, cutting our debt, and allowing the middle class to prosper by cutting taxes and reduce overall spending. Our elected and appointed officials should let individuals deal with the moral issues surrounding their decisions. Let's get back to the original idea that the Founders of this Republic birthed-- that Government should not mandate the extent of Individual Liberty.

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I meant to say Tony Snow is DEAD and ROTTING IN HELL. I'm sure you know Perino's and Snow's intentions right? Just like you predicted McClellans. Scotty was just as loyal until he put some distance between himself and his job. Moron was being generous.

7:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You'll laff at dis

9:46 PM  
Blogger John said...

Cenk. What a loser.

6:43 AM  
Anonymous Pruno said...

Just a Few of the Republicans and Conservatives Who Say the GOP is in the Toilet and Who Endorsed Obama:

Elected Officials:
Jim Leach, Former Congressman from Iowa

"For me, the national interest comes before party concerns, particularly internationally. We do need a new direction in American policy, and Obama has a sense of that."

Lincoln Chafee, Former United States Senator from Rhode Island

"As I look at the candidates in order who to vote for, certainly my kind of conservatism was reflected with Senator Obama, and those points are that we're fiscally conservative, we care about revenues matching expenditures, we also care about the environment, I think it's a traditional conservative value to care about clean air and clean water."

William Weld, Former Governor of Massachusetts

"It's not often you get a guy with his combination of qualities, chief among which I would say is the deep sense of calm he displays, and I think that's a product of his equally deep intelligence."

Arne Carlson, Former Governor of Minnesota

"I think we have in Barack Obama the clear possibility of a truly great president. I would contend that it's the most important election of my lifetime."

Wayne Gilchrest, Congressman from Maryland

"We can't use four more years of the same kind of policy that's somewhat haphazard, which leads to recklessness."

Charles Mathias, Former United States Senator and Congressman from Maryland

"My decision is based on the long-range needs of our country and which of these two candidates I feel is better suited to recharge America's economic health, restore its prestige abroad and inspire anew all people who cherish freedom and equality. For me, that person is Barack Obama."

Larry Pressler, Former Senator from South Dakota

"I just got the feeling that Obama will be able to handle this financial crisis better, and I like his financial team of [former Treasury Secretary Robert] Rubin and [former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul] Volcker better."

Richard Riordan, Former Mayor of Los Angeles

"I'm still a Republican, but I still will always vote for the person who I think will do the best job."

Lowell Weicker, Former Governor and Senator from Connecticut

"At issue is not the partisan politics of two parties, rather the image we have of ourselves as Americans. Senator Obama brings wisdom, kindness, and common sense to what is both his and our quest for a better America."

Claudine Schneider, Former Congressman from Rhode Island

Harris Fawell, Former Congressman from Illinois

Jim Whitaker, Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor

"If we are as a nation concerned with energy, then our consideration should be a national energy policy that is not predicated on crude oil 50 years into the future. We need to get to it, and I think Barack Obama is very clear in that regard."

William Milliken, Former Governor of Michigan

Phil Arthurhultz, Former Michigan State Senate Majority Leader

"I think he has the ability to bring America back as Reagan's 'shining city on the hill' as a beacon of hope to people."

Lou Thieblemont, Mayor of Camp Hill, Pennsylvania

"I'm sick and tired of the politics of fear in this country. He's the only one who doesn't do that."

Linwood Holton, Former Governor of Virginia

"Obama has a brain, and he isn't afraid to use it."

Columnists and Academics:
Jeffrey Hart, National Review Senior Editor

"It turns out that these political parties are not always either liberal or conservative, Democratic or Republican. The Democrat, under certain conditions, can be the conservative."

Andrew Bacevich, Professor of International Relations at Boston University

"For conservatives, Obama represents a sliver of hope. McCain represents none at all. The choice turns out to be an easy one."

David Friedman, Economist and son of Milton and Rose Friedman

"I hope Obama wins. President Bush has clearly been a disaster from the standpoint of libertarians and conservatives because he has presided over an astonishing rise in government spending."

Christopher Buckley, Son of National Review founder William F. Buckley & former NR columnist

"Obama has in him-- I think, despite his sometimes airy-fairy 'We are the people we have been waiting for' silly rehtoric-- the potential to be a good, perhaps even great leader. He is, it seems clear enough, what the historical moment seems to be calling for."

Andrew Sullivan, Columnist for the Atlantic Monthly

"Obama's legislative record, speeches, and the way he has run his campaign reveal, I think, a very even temperament, a very sound judgment, and an intelligent pragmatism. Prudence is a word that is not inappropriate to him."

Wick Alison, Former publisher of the National Review

"I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses. But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history."

Michael Smerconish, Columnist for the Philadelphia Enquirer

" Obama presidency holds the greatest chance for unifying us here at home and restoring our prestige around the globe."

CC Goldwater, Granddaughter of Barry Goldwater

"Nothing about the Republican tickets offers the hope America needs to regain its standing in the world, that's why we're going to support Barack Obama."

Former Governor William Weld

Former Governor William Weld has joined the ranks of Republican Obama supporters

Rep. Wayne Gilchrest, another maverick-y Republican from Maryland, endorsed Barack Obama for president in a September 17, 2008 interview with WYPR, Baltimore's National Public Radio station.

Arne Carlson How about former Republican Governer of Minnesota

Charles Fried , a recent McCain advisor and Reagan appointee. See

Former Sen. Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), who was the first Vietnam veteran to serve in the United States Senate, is the latest Republican to back Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, Politico learned Sunday.

NASCAR legend
NASCAR legend Junior Johnson supports Obama for President.
I've been told that in some parts of the country this is a bigger endorsement than any General or politician ever could make..... My family and I have given this election a lot of thought. Our country is in a rough spot, and we're going to need some serious change. There's only one candidate ready to deliver it -- and that's Barack Obama. Every day I talk to someone else who's never voted for a Democrat, but now they're voting for Barack Obama. They realize that Barack understands what we're going through here in North Carolina. And they're ready for change.

So I've made up my mind, and I'm ready to get involved. I know that I could never have won a race without my pit crew, and I know Barack can't win this one without us.

Charles McC. Mathias, Jr., former Republican Senator from Maryland

Ken Duberstein - former Reagan chief of staff

William Donaldson, Former Chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission under George W. Bush, Former Under Secretary of State under Nixon, and Former special adviser to Vice President Nelson Rockefeller, and David Ruder, Former Chairman of the Securities & Exchange Commission under Reagan, endorsed Obama during the primaries. (not sure is that counts as an endorsement for the general election though?)

Lou Thieblemont, current Mayor Camp Hill, Pennsylvania "switched his lifelong Republican registration [in April] so he [could] vote for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama in Pennsylvania's April 22 primary"

John Hutson, Ret. Rear Admiral, former Judge Advocate General of the Navy, and lifetime Republican spoke at the DNC in Denver declaring he was switching parties and would be voting for Barack Obama in November

Mickey Edwards, former House Republican from Oklahoma, author of Reclaiming Conservatism, and Obama supporter. The recording is from November 5, and it's still available on the podcast; NPR might still have the recording available on its usual media player service.

11:59 AM  
Anonymous never had an original thought said...

Prune face.

Wayne Gilchrest is no longer in Congress. Your material's getting moldy. Will you still be posting it six months from now? A year? Probably. You definitely suffer from ODD, originality deficit disorder.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Leona B. said...

Here's some more material to help you demonstrate how deeply in the toilet the GOP if that were necessary:


Well over 50!! newspapers have now switched to Obama from Bush in 2004 including the Chicago Tribune which had NEVER endorsed a Democrat before. And the latest: the daily in Dick Cheney's hometown of Casper, Wyoming and the Clarion-Ledger in Jackson, Mississippi."

6:50 PM  
Blogger John said...

The list, its presumptions, the insinuations, and the concluding non sequiter is junk, and I'd appreciate it if you stop littering my blog with it.

4:43 AM  
Blogger John said...

This subject under observation conforms pretty well to the established parameters of the profiled lefty blog troll's nature, and the following angry blurt speaks volumes (unwittingly, of course) about the extent of its degeneracy:

"As someone noted earlier,As someone noted earlier, the only way this trog piece of shit can debate is to LIE."

That one sentence alone is a basket case of 5-6 predictable reactions and/or writhing psychodynamic conditions that are irrefutably symptomatic of the lefty blog troll's typically diseased state of mind.

One is the reaction to a stinging--but rationally assessed--rebuke: Anger, and an ad hominem blurt.

When analyzed, the blurt itself--"trog piece of shit"-- reveals much about the character, the very nature, of the compromised subject, proving that the tentacled mindworm of liberalism burrows deeply and basically takes over higher brain function and breaks it down rapidly. That the subject publicly vents and spews the very bile that clearly identifies the infection but itself carries on as if undetected is because the faculty of self-awareness is one of the first to go in the earliest stages of contraction, as targeted by the insidious mindworm to prevent its detection by operative self-assessments and correction.

Again, there are 4-5 indentifiable conditions there that make for interesting discussion, but to stay brief I will point out the most obvious, which are projection and hyperbole:

"As someone noted earlier, the only way this trog piece of shit can debate is to LIE."

Indeed, the RINO pointed it out earlier in this very same commentary section:

"And I see you debate by simply lying."

But that, too, is a projection of what I've said countless times here in one form or another, most recently in the commentary section of the last post (*italics* added:

"You are either too dense and/or brainwashed to see that your arguments are worthy of the harshest ridicule, or too shameless to care *and just spew as much random garbage as you can hoping something will stick, if not gum up the works and end the argument you can't possibly win that way.*"

In other words, they lie, or--to use their own projecting words--"make shit up." .

Anyway, I said it first, and, importantly, I proved the assessment (i.e. that the deranged lefty blog troll debates by lying), while the projected counter-accusations proved no such thing.

First, there was the counter-accusation by the RINO, who essentially libeled your host--and proved itself a blockhead--by calling him a liar when the latter--I--correctly perceived Obama sprinting to the right wearing a conservative mantle (which he still sports).

I was and am right.

Then I was called a liar by the emotionally-unstable troll (but aren't they all?), who's justification for the libel was an emotionally blurt of a ridiculously sweeping hyperbolic conmdemnation (which itself, too, is a projection of the previous and widely-publicised verdict on liberalism--which is precisely why the most succesful liberal politicians were careful never to say, "I'm proud to be a liberal!"):

"EVERYTHING...EVERY LAST THING...the (entire) country...huge, multi-billion dollar lie machine (note: That's a huge projection)..."

The hyperbole is characteristic. Indeed, note that the disturbed "counter-response" was begun by hyperbole (*italics* added): "The *only* way this trog-piece-of-shit"...).

Yes, the One and ONLY way.

These are sick minds.

btw, "Piece-of-shit," too, was used by your host first, at his prerogative, for lack of a better descriptive at the time.

So basically the bulk of the "counter-arguments" here--when not cut & pasting Kool Aid written by hacks and/or similarly weak-minded/disturbed miscreants from the Left--is: "I know you are, but what am I?" and "You are wrong, multiplied by infinity! Nyeh-nyeh!" and/or "You're a liar-liar-pants-on-fire!"

If these are the "elites," then you know why society--and the economy-- decayed and crashed.

Because of them.

6:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL The most liberal senator in the senate is now sprinting to the right?!!? These guys are so f'd up they don't know what to believe anymore!

7:00 AM  
Anonymous never constructive in his criticism said...

So you deny Obama's moved towards the center?

Perhaps you have a delusional example or two you can cite as evidence?

Naaah, that would be too much work, too much like the beginning of a sincere debate...

7:50 AM  
Anonymous Pretty Poison said...


Barack Obama is "Senator Jekyll and President Hyde."

We Don't Need No Stinkin' Rules

Dear American Patriots

On the eve of Mr. Obama's inauguation we find that his Treasury Secretary nominee Geithner did not pay his IRS taxes and hired an illegal alein.That's something like an alien. Geithner is either lying about it or ignored the INF written notices and forgot he signed documents that he knew he had to pay according to the WSJ. He is surrounding himself with more thugs that ignor the law...and good spelling.

And we aim to use this to poison the country as badly as we can. It's why everyone hates us, but we can't stop and we know you can't either.

I intend to expose and bring to trial every illegal action the man has done and will do -- starting with his trampling of the U.S. Constitution by his refusal to confirm his natural born citizenship.

Please, sign a "Demand to Barack Obama" Now and be sure you read this important legal brief in its entirety.

Donate and Sign a Demand to Barack Obama!

Frankly, Obama's past is littered with all sorts of questionable actions -- ranging from downright dumb to undoubtedly illegal. And the United States Justice Foundation -- your conservative voice in the courts since 1979 -- is going to bring Obama to account on each and every legal misstep.

You see during the Bill Clinton presidency, Judicial Watch, under Larry Klayman, dogged the Clintons -- whom he called the "Bonnie and Clyde of American politics" -- exposing their numerous misdeeds to American voters. But Klayman moved on, and the Clinton "co-presidency" ran its course.

And if the Clintons were "Bonnie and Clyde," Barack Obama is "Senator Jekyll and President Hyde."

Senator Obama campaigned for the presidency as a moderate, a uniter, a man seeking change. But we know, based on his past, he'll rule as a radical, left-wing, power hungry politician.

Now it's time for another watchdog group to serve as a check on Barack Obama's unbridled lust for power: the United States Justice Foundation.

USJF is fighting Obama in court right now, challenging his position as President-elect until and unless he provides a valid, original birth certificate proving he is a natural born citizen. And I need you to tell Mr. Obama that you want him to come clean -- right now -- or face legal action like he's never seen before in his life.

Because until Barack Obama releases his original birth certificate, USJF will challenge every action he takes as President, including executive orders and legislation he signs, because he will have stolen the election!

That's right . . . even if he's sworn into office on January 20, Barack Obama will not legally be President of the United States, unless he can prove he is a "natural born citizen."

What's more, every action taken by him while he occupies the White House would be invalid. And if he cannot legally be President, every law passed by Congress will be null and void because the Constitution clearly says all laws passed by Congress must be sent to the President . . . and without a legally elected and sworn in President in office, that becomes an impossibility.

8:53 AM  
Anonymous Please stop screaming said...

Here's another one for your GOP in the Toilet series...amazing how they can ignore a whole, verifiable list of these lifelong Republicans moving left and leaving them behind. You'd think they'd listen to some of their own guys when there are so many.

Anyway, this is just one of the several judicious statements David Frum has made:

Perhaps the strongest reason for doubting Republican chances in 2010 is the collapsed intellectual state of the party. Parties revive when they have something to say — some message relevant to the lives of actual voters. The party offered no such message in 2008, and there are no signs it will develop such a message soon. The dominant wing in today’s GOP is the “say it louder” wing. Rush Limbaugh tells his audiences that the way to win in 2010 is by returning to the template of 1994 and 1980 — campaigns 15 and 30 years in the past! David Frum

9:01 AM  
Anonymous Puhleeeze stop screaming said..., I see why you like poking this guy...what a desperate, seething screed that was!!

Priceless piece of strained, pretentious, writhing pathology.

Can you say psychopath?

9:04 AM  
Anonymous the left in a nutshell said...

Activists who have spent years protesting President Bush admit their chances are slim of seeing Bush or any members of his administration face legal recourse for what they say are "crimes against humanity."

Several activists hoped to squeeze out a few parting shots against the outgoing president in the run-up to President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration on Tuesday. Demonstrators are trying to organize final shows of force in the last hours before Obama becomes president.

But several planned anti-Bush events along Obama's whistle-stop train tour failed to pan out over the weekend.

On Monday, a group called was scheduled to hurl footwear at the White House, an apparent slap at the president reminiscent of a recent press conference in Iraq. Other anti-war groups were set to gather at the Pentagon on the same day.

On Tuesday, a coalition of activist groups will hold an event called "Yes We Can Arrest Bush," co-opting Obama's winning campaign message in a way he probably didn't intend. The protest will be in front of the FBI building along the inaugural parade route.

10:11 AM  
Anonymous one-shoed liberal said...

Psychopath, thy name is "liberal".

10:13 AM  
Anonymous The Patriot said...

A Nasty Surprise for the Remnants of the Reich:

Obama's Election Has Caused a Patriotic Spirit to Sweep America, and has extended to a revival of pro-Americanism all over the world.
Tomorrow, the celebration will not be limited to the mall in Washington, or the inaugural events all over our country. Tomorrow will be a day to celebrate being an American citizen of a new World.

Meanwhile, the subversive, America hating right is praying for Obama's -- and America's --failure...which haters like Rush Limbaugh openly states.

12:46 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Much of the world is now celebrating the rise of socialism in America. I do not celebrate that.

But I know that many, like me, hope the best for our country. This is still the best country in the world. I hope it stays that way, even if Obama is the one to lead the country.

1:00 PM  
Anonymous leftist surrender monkey said...

LOL! The Taliban and al Qaeda are swooning for Obama and renouncing their stated goals of destroying America?

I didn't think so. Get a grip Patri-not. You're loosing your grip on reality.

2:24 PM  
Anonymous Lori said...

Hear, hear, Kelly...I didn't vote for Obama, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for my own candidate this time, either.

But I pray that Obama is able to guide us successfully through the perilous times ahead. It might mean we're out for a while, but eventually we will get a generation of new leaders and get back on track. I'm afraid that guys like Limbaugh will only delay that, however.

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Lori said...

Oh, and I'm not worried about socialism. I think we have to admit that more regulation is necessary after we've seen what these guys do when they're not watched all the time...even Alan Greenspan says so.

But I am afraid of the rise of atheism. It seems we're following rapidly in Europe's lead, and atheist or agnostic ideas are catching on fast with the newer generation. Even the young religous people are going for non-Christian creeds. In my neighborhood, the Methodist church gave up and closed a couple months ago. Some developer's making a loft out of it. Probably have some nonChristian artist move in. It used to have over a hundred members every Sunday.

3:24 PM  
Anonymous Hanspeder Krauder said...

BERLIN (Reuters) – Editorial writers around the world have been taking their final printed whacks at George W. Bush, accusing the president of tarnishing America's standing with what many saw as arrogant and incompetent leadership.

Bush's successor, Barack Obama, will be sworn in as the 44th U.S. president on Tuesday.

"A weak leader, Bush was just overwhelmed in the job," said Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung under a headline: "The Failure." "He confused stubbornness with principles. America has become intolerant and it will take a long time to repair that damage."

Editorials hit out at Bush for two unfinished wars, for plunging the economy into recession, turning a budget surplus into a pile of debt, for his environment policies and tarnishing America's reputation with the Guantanamo Bay detention center.

Canada's Toronto Star was categorical in its condemnation.

"Goodbye to the worst president ever," it declared. "Bush was an unmitigated disaster, failing on the big issues from the invasion of Iraq to global warming, Hurricane Katrina and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."

"Bush leaves a country and an economy in tatters," wrote the Sunday Times in London. It said America's national debt and unemployment nearly doubled on his watch.

Britain's Daily Mail said he entered office with a budget surplus of $128 billion but exits with a $482 billion deficit.

"He leaves the world facing its biggest crisis since the Depression, the Middle East in flames and U.S. standing at an all-time low.


The Scottish Daily Record observed: "America is now hated in many parts of the world. Bush leaves a legacy of wars and the world economy in meltdown. He has been dismissed as a buffoon and a war-monger, a man who made the world a more dangerous place while sending it to the brink of economic collapse."

The Economist says: "He leaves as one of the least popular and most divisive presidents in American history. Bush has presided over the most catastrophic collapse in America's reputation since World War Two."

The Sydney Morning Herald complained about Bush's "singular lack of curiosity in international matters" in an editorial titled "Farewell to a flawed and unpopular commander-in-chief."

Le Monde Weighed in."It's hard to find a historian who won't say that Bush was the most catastrophic leader the U.S. has ever known," the French daily wrote. "One success: since September 11, 2001, there was no attack on U.S. soil. But this sits alongside an interminable list of failures, starting with the war in Iraq."

Germany, ridiculed as "old Europe" by Bush's former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld for opposing the Iraq invasion, took aim at Bush.

"Bush brought great misery to the world with his 'friend-or-foe' mentality," wrote Die Zeit.

Stern magazine said: "Bush led the world's most powerful nation to ruin. He lied to the world, tortured in the name of freedom and caused lasting damage to America's standing."

The Pan-Arab al-Hayat newspaper resorted to bitter black humor under the headline: "We cried a lot and the joke was on us." It recalled his controversial election win in Florida and how he once nearly choked on a pretzel, watching television.

"Perhaps we could say that fate, which let the American people down first in Florida and then with the issue of the pretzel in the president's throat, ultimately helped them by making sure the president would spend half his time on vacation.

"Indeed, he would have caused twice the damage if he had been more active and focused."

Austria's Wiener Zeitung wrote Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad even ranked higher in one international opinion poll than Bush:

"The United States was once the symbol of justice in the world but that has been destroyed by Bush. A web of manipulation has cost America $900 billion and the lives of 4,000 soldiers -- along with at least 500,000 Iraqis."

In Poland, the Warsaw daily Dziennik lamented the worst part about Bush's presidency: "It was empty rhetoric."

3:50 PM  
Blogger Phelonius said...

Guys like Limbaugh? Oh c'mon. Nobody forces anybody to listen to those guys, and they appeal to an audience that already believes as they do. Nobody forces me to check out MSNBC from time to time, but I do so I can learn the speaking points for the far left.

It is a mistake to credit Limbaugh for "making" people think a certain way the same way it is a mistake to blame, say, the Nightly News for making people think another way.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Pruno said...

What the luddite right has brought us...the plague years are imminent. These "people" are our mortal enemies. They need to be exterminated as a matter of survival.

Global warming linked to European viral epidemic
An epidemic of the viral disease nephropathia epidemica (NE) has been linked to increases in the vole population caused by hotter summers, milder winters and increased seedcrop production by broadleaf trees. Research published in BioMed Central's open access International Journal of Health Geographics links outbreaks of this rodent-borne disease to known effects of global warming.

Dr Jan Clement from the Department of Microbiology & Immunology at Belgium's Rega Institute (University of Leuven) worked with a team of medical researchers and bioscience-engineers to investigate outbreaks of NE in Belgium. Dr. Clement founded the Belgian Hantavirus Reference Centre in 1985, and noted that of the 2,200 cases since then, 828 (37.6%) occurred in just the last three years, 2005-2007. The epidemic has been shown to extend to neighboring countries such as France, Germany, The Netherlands, and Luxembourg. He said, "This animal-borne disease, scarcely known before 1990, has been increasing in incidence in Belgium with a cyclic pattern, reaching epidemic proportions since 2005. The fact that the growing combined effect of hotter summer and autumn seasons is matched by the growth of NE in recent years means this epidemic can be considered an effect of global warming".

NE is caused by infection with Puumala virus (PUUV), which is spread by the bank vole, a rodent common throughout most of Europe. The authors believe that warmer weather causes increases in the amount of 'mast', plant seeds from oak and beech trees, that forms the voles' staple diet. This plethora of food results in increases in the vole population and warm summers raise the chances that people will visit the forests where the voles live. According to Clement, "Since 1993, each NE peak has been preceded by increased autumnal mast formation the year before, resulting in yearly NE numbers significantly higher than those during the mast years themselves".

PUUV is a hantavirus, a group of viruses known to cause hemorrhagic fevers (fevers combined with bleeding disorders). NE is a relatively mild hemorrhagic fever that causes flu-like symptoms often with renal complications, sometimes also with pulmonary problems, needing Intensive Care treatment, such as acute dialysis and/or mechanical ventilation. In some rare cases it can, moreover, cause the shock with internal haemorrhaging and death for which these infections are infamous. Clement said, "In 1997, more than 9,000 people in the Russian republic of Bashkortostan contracted the disease, of which 34 cases were fatal".

5:10 PM  
Anonymous we'll see who gets exterminated said...

Please. The enormous stack of non-discretionary Leftist social imperatives and give-aways has simply grown too large for even the free-est and most vibrant economy on earth to shoulder. The final collapse and death throws of progressive liberalism are FINALLY at hand! Once a final stake is driven into Obama's heart, America will be free once more!

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