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Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Way To Go, Tony!

Bush taps Tony Snow to be new Press Secretary


Anonymous Jeff said...

Well it's not like he had to look very far, all he did was pull someone from the White House external communications department. He already worked there, so what's new?

6:36 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Promotion...that's what's new.

7:53 AM  
Anonymous jeff said...

Internal transfer, nothing new. Just cemented the complettion of the Faux News Corp and the White House. Just another SNOW job. :)

9:01 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

So, what is your point?

12:14 PM  
Blogger John said...

Tony's a good guy.

And I don't know why Jeff and his ilk are so snidely hostile towards Foxnews.

Don't you celeprate Freedom of the Press?

Fox is a reactionary phenomenon to decades of monolithic liberal dominance in the newsmedia which had Dan Rather and, more recently, CNN (a.k.a. The "Clinton News Network") telling Americans what political opinions and attitudes are the correct ones to have.

Did Jeff complain about the shameless, liberal/Democrat shmoozefest then (and still today)?

No. He was batting his eyelashes and clapping his hands "Yay!"--but is now angry that they have to share the same room with the Right.

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

You know all your ilk claim Liberal bias media. That's a bunch of hyped up excuses for the far right who don't like hearing the truth. It's a myth. And Fox, well they are an outcropping of that BS you spout, now they are "officially" the White House communications(propoganda) dept. They just pretended not to be before.

2:07 PM  
Blogger John said...

"You know all your ilk claim Liberal bias media. That's a bunch of hyped up excuses for the far right who don't like hearing the truth. It's a myth..."

Are you kidding me? Where have you been?

The only people who call it a "myth" are...

Oh, right. Nevermind.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

The liberal media have been celebrating freedom of the press for...well, until Fox News cam along.

Jeff and his ilk just can't stand that another side of the story should be aired.

John, btw...I was asking Jeff what was HIS point. So, what is it about Snow that Jeff and his ilk don't like?? Oh...he isn't a liberal....OH I GET IT!!

Like he would expect a liberal to get that job...(OH I am laughing...make him stop...ha ha ha ha)!

I'm glad to see Tony Snow get this job.

3:18 PM  
Blogger John said...

My cheering for him has more to do with the fact that he was recently battling cancer, anyway, and I'm happy that he--and the president--have not allowed that to slow him down.

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

John Says:

Are you kidding me? Where have you been?

The only people who call it a "myth" are...

Are you Kidding me- the only people who watch fox news and actually believe anything they say are the same people that take psycho American hating bigots like Ann Coulter and Michelle Malikin seriously- oh wait-

Yeah right nevermind.

Find something else to go to war with the 68% of America about. It's not hard to see why Bush holds steady at 32% here. The base(ment) you are indeed. :)

4:35 PM  
Blogger John said...

Right, Jeff, you speak on behalf of %68 of Americans who are likewise Bush-hating, race-baiting, antiwar, terrorist-appeasing/apologizing/jusifying, anti-business, environmentalist, high-tax, secularist and socialist unhinged liberals who "hope Bush gets assassinated," and I'm in the "basement" with those who aren't and don't.

5:20 PM  
Blogger the liberal samurai said...

"I admit it, the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." - Bill Kristol (not exactly a liberal).

Congratz to Snow and too Bush for GASP picking someone who disagrees with him from time to time.

But I can't let this Liberal Media nonsense slide. The problem with Fox is they claim to be "Fair & balanced" if they'd just come out and admit they have a conservative bias I wouldn't have a problem with them. As to CNN, you're right, the Clinton News Network did nothing but cover stuff like lewinski, travelgate, whitewater etc.

The mainstream media isn't liberal or conservative, they're anti-establishment. If anything, they could all be considered conservative for rolling over and playing dead after 9/11.

5:21 PM  
Blogger John said...

Sanjay said:

"The mainstream media isn't liberal or conservative, they're anti-establishment."

The establishment is conservative.

The establishment is what conservatives want to "conserve."

The establishment is what liberals want to liberalize/be "liberated" from.

5:26 PM  
Blogger the liberal samurai said...

By establishment I mean whomever is in power at the time. Not establishment from a macroscopic point of view.

5:44 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

I beg to differ with main stream media being anti-establishment (as "whoever is in power")...

Though they had a hey-day with the Clinton/Lewinski only backed up their liberal views on morality. They couldn't talk about it enough. Look, they would say, 'what does it matter what the President of the United States does in private'...while broadcasting the whole affair.

They boasted that his poll numbers were rising because of it.

But did this same main stream media say much about Clinton's support of illegal searches in the projects of Chicago?

Yes this was mentioned... in the tiniest of detail...and praised him for his actions.

12:39 AM  
Blogger John said...

Yeah, Sanjay, macroscopically, come on. They hate Bush and love Clinton.

They hated Bush 41 and they hated Reagan, too.

And they *really* hated Nixon...although they may very well hate Bush 43 more.

They took polls, Sanjay. A HUGE majority of journalists (and educators, BTW), vote Democrat.

I don't know where Kristol had been when he said that.

Does he even realize how maligned his *Weekly Standard* is on the Left?

He must know. Who's telling the hordes of *Weekly Standard*-haters--not to mention the *Washington Times* and Foxnews-haters--that his magazine is Right-Wing toilet paper?

The liberal media, that's who.

8:37 AM  
Blogger the liberal samurai said...

While I agree that journalists are overwhelmingly liberal I dispute that their bias transfers. As a lefty, I don't recall the media condemning the righties for going after Clinton over Lewinski. They had a field day with it. The way the right portrays the media, you would figure they would've ignored it all together.

Kelly, how can you say they "Boasted his poll numbers"? I would say they are reporting the poll numbers. Is there a bias in the way Bush's low poll #'s are reported now? How about when they were in the 90s post 9/11?

3:43 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Bush's poll numbers were up because of his ability to bring the country together after 911.

What was Clinton doing for the country when he and Lewinski were going at it??

It wasn't where the poll numbers were but what that the media made a big deal about Clinton's high numbers at that time.

5:31 PM  
Blogger John said...

Because, "Everyone knows," it was "Just a blowjob!"

7:37 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

So, his poll numbers were up cause of a blow job...

Bush could learn something from this ;)

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

I think we might just find that out soon enough. Hookers, intelligence, watergate, oh my. hmmm


Taking bets on Rove anyone, 50-50, 60-40, 90-10 going down soon also?


8:32 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

On a much lighter, well not much lighter for me anyway, note-

TWO DAYS TILL THE DRAFT BABY- Saturday can't come fast enough...

8:34 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

But, I understand what you are asking, Sanjay.

How can I say that they Boasted his poll numbers...when you say they merely reported them.

There is a diffence in HOW they report them. What cause and effect do they attach to the those numbers.

Believe me, they are making a big deal about what they perceive as the cause of Bush's poll numbers.

Actually, that is the key...perception. They report it how they see it and they see things through the lens of liberalism.

8:36 PM  
Blogger John said...

They don't even report it as they see it. They see something good and intentionally spin it as bad (or not report it all).

Da Boyz could very well go to the Super Bowl this year Jeff.

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Dreaming, I say they take a step back this year.

8:00 AM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

Kelly Says:

I beg to differ with main stream media being anti-establishment (as "whoever is in power")...

Though they had a hey-day with the Clinton/Lewinski only backed up their liberal views on morality.

Don't you mean, they didn't(don't) back YOUR ultra conservative views on morality. Who says your views are right, and "theirs" are wrong?

10:43 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

We are just pointing out which way the main stream media leans...and you just backed that up.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Jeff said...

How do I back that up by pointing out your own hypocrisy. It's ok for you to be ultra conservative, and as such, believe that the media is left leaning because of your views on morality. Because the media reports on or points out things you don't like, or take your particular viewpoint, you project they are liberal, and you then must be the norm or center. Well I don't buy it, not one bit. I think Sanjay has gotten the best view across, if the media is biased in any way, it is skewed more toward the anti establishment, or it used to be anyway. Everyone wants to believe that their own beliefs are the most important, or most correct going. We are all guilty of it, and more often than not, we are all wrong. The center of this country, of which you and I are not in, are the ones who have given up, bailed, felt abandoned and don't vote, read our little blogs, or even watch the news anymore. The 30% who actually vote are no more a representative sector of this country as a whole anymore than Foxnews is "fair and balanced" or Ted Kennedy is secrectly a religious fundamentalist.

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal bias or conservative bias; I say either one is bad. Dan Rather's Bush Guard Service report was shoddy journalism; and yes it displayed a liberal bias. You guys say "look look liberal media BAD!" so that makes a COnservative media good? We shouldn't have a liberal or a conservative media. We should just have a media.
Sanjay (Getting tired of logging in!)

11:44 PM  
Blogger Kelly said...

Jeff, I will give you that...they lean to the left...

...while stations such as Fox News lean to the right.

They add "balance" to the news.

Here in my own home town there are two major Newspapers. One leans to the left and one leans to the right.

The point in all this is that the majority of the News media lean to the left.

And yes, it is true that those in the middle feel that they do not have a voice. Take my Dad, for instance. In 1992 he voted for Perot. The only State where a vote for Perot made any impact was Utah...where Clinton came in third place.

Many have given up because most of what they hear comes from the left. But some of them also don't see eye to eye with the far right. The two extremes get heard the most because they are the ones who feel the most passionate about their views.

I understand that you feel passionate about your views...I am the same way. I have convictions about things that cannot be swayed by the winds of "political correctness".

You are the one who comes in here telling us how ridiculous we are for our views. A simple "Way to Go, Tony" brings you in here in your attempts to prove that statement as a snow job.

you said,"You know all your ilk claim Liberal bias media. That's a bunch of hyped up excuses for the far right who don't like hearing the truth. It's a myth..."

YOU are the one who thinks their views are the NORM...."a bunch of hyped up excuses for the far right who don't like hearing the truth. It's a myth..."

It is like the people who stand outside the LDS Conference Center during our semi-annual conferences yelling at us ( as we cross the street to attend the conference) that we are damned for our convictions.

You may call it a myth, but I stand by what I say.

12:06 AM  
Blogger John said...


2:34 AM  
Blogger Kelly said...

on the subject of liberal media bias...

When It Comes to Leaks, Media Know Best

10:04 AM  
Blogger John said...

Thanks for the link, Kelly.

5:27 AM  

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